It’s not the cure. It’s temporary suppression. I re-sold few times monthly dose of Mounjaro and the buyers catapulted to same bad habits in no time when the last dose stopped working.
Like any medicine, it's something that is intended to be prescribed by doctors to be used under supervision, rather than just taken by people ad-hoc at a random dosage hoping for a miracle.
And as for cure rather than suppression - yes, according to that definition, no medicine that is intended to be taken indefinitely to manage a condition is a cure. But nevertheless, high blood pressure medicine, statins, anti-inflamatories, HIV antiretroviral therapy, and many other drugs have saved many millions of people from an early death. We should keep looking for one-off "cures" for all conditions, but let's not limit ourselves to them.
Same here when I start/stop Mounjaro except I continue to enjoy exercise. Though I'm probably just kidding myself that the exercise is undoing the naughty food
The only way I found to reduce cravings is to be a hermit because there is food absolutely everywhere all the time
This is exactly my experience. The only time I’ve been able to consistently lose weight was during the pandemic, when I could both work and socialize from home and strictly regulate what food came into my apartment, and when I’ve been on tirzepatide.
Relying on exercise expenditure to outrun dietary intake is a losing strategy because exercise is not an effective way to create a caloric deficit. However, it may be one of the most effective ways to defend one.
This is why on paper nobody is prescribed these drugs until they have followed a program to change lifestyle things like diet. You mention "re-selling Mounjaro" - which implies they just took the drugs without the programs, is that correct? Did you expect anything else?
But for many it's considered a shortcut and there's a big network of dubious online shops and weight loss clinics that sell it. It's not unlike crash / fad diets in that regard.
Most people would already benefit from lifestyle adjustments, but those are hard to do for most people - for starters, most people don't even have regular eating habits to begin with, no baseline to even make adjustments to.
The buyers used it as crash diet aceelerator… Lose 6 kg before vacation to look better on the pictures. I know I doctor who prescribes it for these cases too. Looks like, that this medicine is heavily abused.
Why? Statins are one of the most well studied drugs in existence. Most people have no side effects, and the long-term benefits are incredibly straightforward - on par with blood pressure medication.
Temporary suppression is a great way to learn how to regulate yourself though.
I quite smoking with cytisine, a drug that basically makes nicotine useless by taking it's place. The pitch is that it's just easier to quite cytisine than nicotine, because unlike nicotine it leaves your system easily.
Wouldn't the same principle work with Mounjaro? Ease off the drug evenly, so you would wouldn't have to overcome big bad addiction all at once, instead you face just a bit of addiction one at the time.
"diet" implies a temporary change to achieve a certain goal. However, "changing your diet" has long term permanence in it. But this is hard for a lot of people because they don't have a fixed diet to begin with, instead just eating whatever whenever they're hungry. Same with exercise, people need to make that into a habit.
But forming habits / making lifestyle changes is hard. And when people hear they can just take an injection instead of make lifestyle changes they're like oo, easy!
falcor84|20 days ago
And as for cure rather than suppression - yes, according to that definition, no medicine that is intended to be taken indefinitely to manage a condition is a cure. But nevertheless, high blood pressure medicine, statins, anti-inflamatories, HIV antiretroviral therapy, and many other drugs have saved many millions of people from an early death. We should keep looking for one-off "cures" for all conditions, but let's not limit ourselves to them.
gib444|20 days ago
The only way I found to reduce cravings is to be a hermit because there is food absolutely everywhere all the time
derektank|20 days ago
46493168|20 days ago
Cthulhu_|20 days ago
But for many it's considered a shortcut and there's a big network of dubious online shops and weight loss clinics that sell it. It's not unlike crash / fad diets in that regard.
Most people would already benefit from lifestyle adjustments, but those are hard to do for most people - for starters, most people don't even have regular eating habits to begin with, no baseline to even make adjustments to.
lnsru|20 days ago
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lesostep|19 days ago
I quite smoking with cytisine, a drug that basically makes nicotine useless by taking it's place. The pitch is that it's just easier to quite cytisine than nicotine, because unlike nicotine it leaves your system easily.
Wouldn't the same principle work with Mounjaro? Ease off the drug evenly, so you would wouldn't have to overcome big bad addiction all at once, instead you face just a bit of addiction one at the time.
cm2012|20 days ago
Cthulhu_|20 days ago
But forming habits / making lifestyle changes is hard. And when people hear they can just take an injection instead of make lifestyle changes they're like oo, easy!