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Irish man detained by ICE for 5 months

182 points| cauliflower99 | 21 days ago |rte.ie

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cdrnsf|21 days ago

Regardless of the circumstances, if you're not a US citizen I would encourage you to not travel to the US. Even if you _are_ a US citizen you may well be harassed and abused by ICE.

zombot|20 days ago

That's how terror works, it can hit anyone, any time.

0xy|18 days ago

The Irish man you're referring to fled Ireland because of drug dealing charges, by the way. He's a fugitive.

NedF|21 days ago

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ghouse|21 days ago

Due process under the US Constitution protects everyone in the US, not just US citizens.

ktm5j|21 days ago

Actually, thanks to the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 that's not exactly true anymore.

You can be detained and deported without first seeing a judge.

tim-tday|21 days ago

I think you misspoke. “Protects” is a statement of fact which does not resemble current facts. “is supposed to protect” would be more accurate.

The as built does not currently match the plan provided by the constitution and rule of law. Please see your nearest democratic representative to address the problem.

phonon|21 days ago

Not according to the 5th Circuit, sadly....

"The majority stakes the largest detention initiative in American history on the possibility that ‘seeking admission’ is like being an ‘applicant for admission,’ in a statute that has never been applied in this way, based on little more than an apparent conviction that Congress must have wanted these noncitizens detained — some of them the spouses, mothers, fathers, and grandparents of American citizens,” she added. “Straining at a gnat, the majority swallows a camel.”

https://www.courthousenews.com/fifth-circuit-upholds-trump-a...

iso1631|21 days ago

It really doesn't. It should of course.

But SV cheers it on

rayiner|21 days ago

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ttfkam|21 days ago

If the Executive Branch doesn't care about the Constitution and inconvenient laws when directing the law enforcement agencies under its control, Congress doesn't hold the executive to account by either withholding funds or threatening impeachment, and the SCOTUS majority doesn't try to rein in these acts while seeming to lack the ability to enforce its own decisions, the words printed on the Constitution are just useless ink.

Elections have consequences, and we're all paying them. Some paying a lot more than others.

josefritzishere|21 days ago

Increasingly this seems like a scam intended to re-route my tax dollars into the private prison corporations that donate to the Trump campaign. What purpose other purpose could this possibly serve?

pixl97|21 days ago

Getting Americans used to imprisoning every one they want.

stevenwoo|21 days ago

It's also a small step to just detain and deport anyone remotely eligible who criticizes those in power, criticizes those who support those in power, is a family member of one of the prior mentioned parties, or is not in the preferred range of skin tones for those in power. They already deported a few citizens, oops, that's just going to happen when they have deportation quotas to meet, and let that be a warning to the rest of the uppity citizens with the gumption to protest against them.

ozozozd|21 days ago

An extremely charitable take. I commend you.

It’s absolutely a scam intended to route our tax dollars to private prisons. The rest is theater.

I bet the borders are still open to those who are motivated enough to cross.

rayiner|21 days ago

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unethical_ban|21 days ago

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johnnyanmac|21 days ago

Looks like this actually got unflagged if it was flagged before. That's rare here.

TitaRusell|21 days ago

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muricula|21 days ago

So you don't care if injustice happens to other people, only if it could happen to you?

goatlover|21 days ago

Why is it understandable that ICE goes after people from developing countries? That being said, I don't know how ICE is allowed to detain anyone for months and move them around so they're hard to locate. Sounds extremely illegal and unconstitutional. Don't know why anyone supports this BS. Really makes me feel sad for my country.

rayiner|21 days ago

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pavel_lishin|21 days ago

> The man concedes he came to the U.S. illegally.

Not according to the article?

> "And I did, I complied with everything they said. They asked me if I had a Green Card, I said I didn't, I said I was married to a citizen and that I had a marriage-based petition in place and I was just about to receive my Green Card and that I had a work permit to be here and work."

> He said he had received the work permit about "a month or so earlier", so as far as he knew he was covered.

rottingchris|21 days ago

> But U.S. law prohibits illegal immigrants from getting a green card

Your link and quote does not support this specific claim. The law linked is about naturalization and not about being granted permanent resident status.

coffeebeqn|21 days ago

Where did it say he arrived illegally? Sounds like he’s awaiting Adjustment of Status based on family ties from getting married but doesn’t say what his status was before

fuddle|21 days ago

He has a valid work permit and is married to a US citizen. He's been locked in a cell with terrible conditions for four-and-a-half months and your trying to justify this?

> the person is being detained only because he is refusing to return to his country of citizenship

He's being detained because ICE chose to detain him.

ghostly_s|21 days ago

Nowhere in the article does he "concede he came to the U.S. illegally."

helle253|21 days ago

he received his work permit a month before getting picked up?

it sounds like he was here legally. Maybe not the whole time, i dont know that for sure! but certainly at least at the time he was picked up by ICE goons.

0xy|21 days ago

The correct approach to do this is the K-1 visa. Anything else is a loophole or fraud. This guy thought he could lie and defraud his way to a visa without doing it properly.

Another alternative is the CR-1 visa, also a legitimate pathway.

The New York Times attempted to cover this scheme a few months ago but when you look into all the cases they all involve lying to the government or outright fraud, for example one case they highlighted was of someone who entered on a K-1 visa, which requires marriage within 90 days and which you legally agree to do, marrying TWO YEARS after entry and attempting to adjust status. So basically, committing massive immigration fraud and betting the government won't notice.

throw20251220|21 days ago

You are all immigrants there. You all came on boats, you or your ancestors. Killed almost all natives and claim you’re the legal ones.