[myk-e]

Yes, I meant ordinary hardware which you find at home, like a current MacBook Air or equivalent Windows desktop. There must be a time frame when early SOTA LLMs were at a level that compares to open models that can run on ordinary hardware. But it's more like years rather than months. My rough guess would be 2-3 years. Which still would be amazing if we could get OPUS 4.5 quality within 2-3 years on an ordinary computer.

[karmakaze]

I don't know if you'd consider this ordinary, but a single Mac Studio M5 Ultra 512GB (or even 256GB) V/RAM seems pretty sweet.

[myk-e]

I love the spec, but it is like 5x or 10x a Macbook Air I mean really ordinary, Personal Computer in broad sense - not dedicated LLM kit.