[profsummergig]

Per article he owns a business.

Usually a pre-Green-Card work permit doesn't allow that (you need a GC to own a business).

This article is an example of sophisticated co-mingling of facts and omissions, designed to obfuscate the context.

[nkrisc]

Still shouldn’t warrant five months of detention.

Additional context: he claims ICE forged his signature on legal documents.

He should be free while the case proceeds. Seems like exactly the kind of person who is not a flight risk, because the entire reason he’s contesting it is because he’s built a life he doesn’t want to leave.

[dietr1ch]

Shoes not tied properly? => 5 months in jail, it's only right.

You seem to be searching for the slightest absurdity to justify any of this happening.

[mcphage]

Didn't say "God bless you" when I sneezed?

[rendx]

> you need a GC to own a business

You are mistaken. Plenty of people own businesses in the US even as foreigners. I don't even have to step into that country to open one, and also not for a transfer of ownership/shares.

[ylow]

This is not true. You do not need to be a US resident to register a company, and anyone own shares in a company. There are a variety of visa options, and ways to navigate the process that will work.

[profsummergig]

I realize this is complicated,

I didn't say you needed to be a US resident to register a company.

I said that most pre-GC work-permits (e.g. H1B) don't allow you to own a US-based business. If you're here on a work-permit, they (the govt.) expect you to be an employee of your sponsor, they don't want you to start a business.

To your point,

one can be an investor in a US company without having a US visa/residence/work-permit. Although, to open a business without living in the US, only a handful of states allow this (e.g., Delaware, Wyoming, Nevada).

However, once again, if you are in the US on a work-permit, you need to follow the rules of the work-permit. The rules applicable to non-citizens who are not living in the US on a work-permit may be different.

[medion]

Even with some co-mingling of facts, is 5 months detention still proportionate? That’s the crux of it.

[stackskipton]

My opinion is probably not but this is ultimately a political conversation.

The article is extremely light on details but fact he doesn't have a Green Card/Lawful Permanent Resident yet would indicate that at some point of his time in United States, he was illegally present, probably for a while.

Sure, he's on path, MAYBE (that's up to immigration courts), to legal status but he's not quite there yet and it's one of those "Are we going to forgive past transgressions?"

[bovermyer]

So that deserves five months of imprisonment and inhumane conditions?

Gosh, we have very different ideas of policy.

[goodpoint]

The article is clear: man imprisoned without due process for months.

[ck2]

btw Musk overstayed a Canadian student visa to work in the USA, both illegal

and historically documentable

there's probably good reason he's writing 5 Million dollar checks a pop to various PACs

[tty456]

You should back up "usually"

[catlikesshrimp]

The bussiness can be lawfully owned by his US native wife. There are possibilities, but as you say, the article is lacking.

[profsummergig]

If we are talking hypotheticals here, anything can be possible. Subject could be an illegitimate direct descendent of Thomas Jefferson, which would make this entire case uniquely newsworthy.

[ranger_danger]

People from other countries can own US companies even if they've never been to the US.

[zarzavat]

> you need a GC to own a business

Citation needed.