top | item 46950459

(no title)

throw03172019 | 20 days ago

Is there a market for a $400,000+ electric sports car? For me, the excitement of a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc is the engine and the sound.

discuss

order

lateforwork|20 days ago

> the engine and the sound

At some point you have to accept a technology transition. Otherwise you sound like someone arguing against motor cars because the real thrill of transportation was the horse’s clippity-clop.

carefree-bob|20 days ago

You don't need to accept anything when it comes to a $400,000 sports car. Ferrari drivers put like 1600 miles a year on their car, it's not even transportation, it's a weekend toy. They can just buy other toys, like helicopter rides, or whatever other thing will come along that will give them the thrill they want.

King-Aaron|20 days ago

( 100+ years of having cars, and there are a large number of people who still spend lots of money to get a horse's clippity-clop )

morshu9001|20 days ago

I actually don't have to accept it, same with automatic trans. If I'm going to splurge on something impractical like this, it better be awesome. Can't blame Ferrari for their decisions seeing how they want to be the fastest and also stay in business, but nothing after the F430 is exciting.

SideburnsOfDoom|20 days ago

The selling point of electric sports cars is more "the acceleration is amazing" and less "it makes a loud noise".

e.g.

> a 0–100 km/h (62 mph) acceleration time of 2.36 seconds, and a quarter mile (402 m) drag race time of 9.78 seconds. ... unofficially the fastest production car in the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U9

> Model S Plaid Takes 2.07 Seconds to Accelerate from 0-100 mph

https://www.energytrend.com/news/20210623-22467.html

MindSpunk|20 days ago

Acceleration is about the only selling point of a sports EV.

They're so ungodly heavy because of the batteries that they handle like barges. They need giant tyres and so much ESC and software control because these things weigh almost 2000kg or more. You can try and work around it but there's only so much that can be done to make 2000kg take a corner.

Looking at where sports cars will be in 10 years with ICEs being regulated out of existence makes me very sad because it seems like we're about to see the death of the lightweight sports car.

simonebrunozzi|20 days ago

typo in the title, it should be 0-100 kmh, not mph.

harry8|20 days ago

The sound of horses is vastly more pleasant than an engine.

LanceJones|20 days ago

It will have simulated gear changes if that helps at all...

bloodyplonker22|20 days ago

To be honest, it may help for the modern Ferrari driver. It doesn't help for those who appreciate the Ferraris from the '90s and before.

Animats|20 days ago

Really? Simulating a transmission has been tried a few times over the last decade, but it's flopped repeatedly as just silly. It's not likely to impress Ferrari buyers.

The only successful vehicle which has that is a driver-training car built in China. It's electric, but has a clutch pedal and shifter which are inputs to the software. You can even "stall the engine".[1]

[1] https://www.jalopnik.com/this-chinese-electric-car-designed-...

kristjansson|20 days ago

Tesla Roadster took a bunch of preorders at $50-250k down almost a decade ago, More recently, Taycan did reasonable-ish volume at $100-200k/unit. There (at least once was) a market for such things. Its definitely not the same market as ICE super/hypercars, but there are some that might enjoy a silent, luxurious car with a sub-2 0-60 as a complement to other cars in the garage.

hnav|20 days ago

They've been going to turbos in all but their flagships so they generally don't sound all that exciting anyway. Lambo literally draped their styling over a VW/Porsche parts-bin crossover SUV and all the influencers flocked to it. The person who appreciates the high-rpm wail of old timey, power-dense engines is not the same person who drops half a million on a car anymore.

morshu9001|20 days ago

There are simply way more super rich people than before. Simultaneously the fastest car tech isn't necessarily the coolest anymore. I see hypercars all the time and don't even care.

GuinansEyebrows|20 days ago

as long as there is a Market, there will be a market for rich boy toys.