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Is there any reason why things gravitate towards being web-centric, especially Google-centric? Seeing that Google's browser policies triggered the LE change and the fact that most CAs are really just focusing on what websites need rather than non-web services isn't helpful considering that browsers now are terribly inefficient (I mean come on, 1GB of RAM for 3 tabs of Firefox whilst still buffering?!) yet XMPP is significantly more lightweight and yet more featureful compared to say Discord.

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xg15|21 days ago

> Is there any reason why things gravitate towards being web-centric, especially Google-centric?

Yes, the reason is called "Chrome" and "90% market share"...

account42|20 days ago

And the reason for that is called "regulatory capture".

nickf|20 days ago

Google dominate the space because they have an active, robust trust-store program that they manage well. Apple the same. Mozilla and Microsoft too (though to a lesser extent).

If any ecosystem - such as XMPP - wishes to, they could start their own root-program, but many simply copy what Chrome or Mozilla do and then are surprised when things change.