[jakobnissen]

For the people comparing the dependence on US tech to US dependence on ASML: It’s not the same. US software providers can shut down their software services in an instant, paralyzing European societies.

If the US government forces them to, Microsoft and Google could refuse to serve Office 365, Microsoft cloud storage, Google Drive, Google mail, all online services that we use Google to log in with, Android, so nearly all smart phones, Windows and MacOS. Society would grind to a halt.

If Taiwan loses access to ASML, then Europe loses as much as Taiwan or US does, and the effects could take years to feel

[general1465]

Practically greed of US companies will give Europeans ample amount of time to transition. See Russia where US companies are effectively still present even when they are claiming they are not.

[sebazzz]

> US software providers can shut down their software services in an instant, paralyzing European societies.

And no US SaaS provider or cloud provider will ever be trusted again, instant cutting off a part of the US economy.

[JohnTHaller]

Lots of the world already doesn't given their current and past actions, especially under the current administration. Google now gives out your personal and financial info to ICE without a judicial warrant.

[oceansky]

Could Google brick Android phones remotely in theory?

[bossyTeacher]

A single OTA update would brick most phones in a couple of weeks. Taking advantage of any of the many zero day exploits would enable them to brick most phones in a matter of hours.

[qrios]

Via certificate invalidation, or turning off services for certificate pinning?

[belter]

>> US software providers can shut down their software services in an instant, paralyzing European societies.

Takes us through the scenario....Because lately too many have started to believe this story of USA: "...we dont need anybody, all others need us...". Maybe too much FoxNews...