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rapatel0 | 19 days ago

I agree with this entire article, except that it's not just a right-wing phenomenon. Both sides distort the truth for financial gain and from a quantitative POV it's not a false equivalence.

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kevinfiol|19 days ago

At least in the U.S., from my observations, it's mainly a right-wing phenomenon and borne from the same culture that brought us the likes of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Hal Turner. As a teenager, my friends and I would laugh at this stuff and assume by the time we were having kids, Fox News and similar right-wing, vaguely racist, puritanical media would be diminished to a point where it was hardly noticeable. We were clearly very wrong.

FatherOfCurses|19 days ago

To quote you from an earlier comment of yours: "This is exactly the sensational take (devoid of nuance and information) that we should collectively push back against."

The left has been traditionally anti-capitalist and in favor of improving rights and living conditions. Who on the left is gaining financially from distorting the truth to the level of someone like Larry Ellison, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, the Koch Brothers, or Jeff Bezos?

rapatel0|19 days ago

I don't understand what is sensationalist with my comment.

- I didn't make an outrageous or extrordinary claim.

- I didn't paint either side as crazy, broken or evil.

- I'm not leveraging charged language like racial slurs, or historical tragedies (nazi-ism).

- I'm not personally attacking anyone or encouraging any violence.

Nasrudith|19 days ago

In the favor of improving living conditions? If and only if it is through their ideology. If it is through something which goes against their ideology the goalposts move at the speed of light and out comes some rationalization like "it wasn't really important, what we need is community".

When communism had claims to being more productive growth was the most important thing in the world and why we should adopt their ideology. Now look at the 'degrowth' people what a coincidence and they are literally arguing for worsening living conditions....

orwin|19 days ago

True, but rarely you see someone grifting to the left. Each time someone get caught putting his hands, or worse, where he shouldn't, he tends to go rightward, and fast. Same thing when they are caught doing MLMs, always to the right. Even with shitcoiners, the right-wing pivot is fast once your 'racism is bad, but this antiracist coin' is done. I honestly don't know why.

Probably you have either more money, or more forgiving/powerful people on the right? Some grift to the center, but it's very rare, when libs are as powerful and rich as conservative, so I've no idea.

rapatel0|19 days ago

>True, but rarely you see someone grifting to the left.

Not true. There are plenty of grifters on the left.

Both sides use the same pattern:

- Look at the crazy stuff *their* people are doing.

- We should all be angry -> generates clicks revenue.

- Donate/Buy XYZ to save the humanity/yourself.