[xyzelement]

I mean I think it depends on the suburb. If you moved your family to a place where everyone is a shut-in boomer (vs the grandfatherly types that I somehow meet in my area) then... why would you move there to have kids?

To me that's like going to a badly reviewed restaurant and then complaining about the food. If you knew you were moving to a place hostile to kids, why move there?

[tayo42]

With the housing market competitive as it is you don't really get to much of a choice and it's not like there's yelp reviews for neighbors.

[xyzelement]

I don't think that's right. There's a difference between "I hadn't tried to do that"(which would have been the case for me, if not for my wife's wisdom) and "it's hard"

Like literally a starting point could be -where do your friends and coworkers with kids tend to live? Or ask a realtor which parts of town have turned over with young families.

When you are checking out the house you can literally tell which houses have kids and u can ask about it.

The housing market it what it is but you get a very different outcome if you search in a a family friendly town vs not to begin with. Obviously?