[baconbrand]

I listed asylum seekers and visa holders in detention but they are definitely grabbing citizens too. Usually they do not hold them for very long.

This happened at the Target I shop at:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/ice-immigrat...

Two teenagers just doing their jobs, dogpiled by roughly four adult men, beaten up and released hours later. One of them was just dropped off at the Walmart down the street, the other they released at the federal building they’re working out of.

[wahnfrieden]

There’s this case where a citizen was detained and they called his authentic RealID “fake”: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-d...

So even using valid papers on you is not enough. We’re beyond a “papers please” situation. It is up to their mood.

[reliabilityguy]

> Usually they do not hold them for very long.

I am confused here. If the law grants ICE (or whatever is the umbrella agency that ICE operates under) the power to detain to determine legality of the status, ICE does it, and then releases people back, the law works as intended, no?

I am confused what is the difference between this, and police who can detain a “tall man in black short and red hat” and 10 hours later (or whenever) release back due to new information, or mistake in ID?

I understand that we absolutely have to strive to zero of such cases, but operations at scale (like law enforcement) have zero chance to have no mistakes.

[abustamam]

Replace "tall man in black short and red hat who may have committed a violent crime" with "anyone who looks like they may speak Spanish even if no crime has been committed," even if they have a valid government ID card and we arrive at the problem with ICE.

[baconbrand]

I am confused why you want to debate and make excuses for an agency that sent an innocent man to torture prison for all the months it took for the courts to get him back. Honestly. The complete inhumanity of some people.