[socialcommenter]

CarPlay has become somewhat of a standard. It's fine to say you personally don't need it, but many/most laymen will still expect their new car to support it.

If a PC was launched without Windows support, most people on HN might be able to live with it day-to-day, but it would still be a dealbreaker for the general population. Admittedly this isn't a fair comparison, but hopefully you understand my point.

[plqbfbv]

As another Tesla owner, I've had this discussion with my brother one too many times. He'll insist he needs buttons, he needs Android Auto/CarPlay and whatnot. Every time I step into one of those cars I'm overwhelmed. Half of the times it doesn't connect, when it connects I get useless notifications for everything. It's not well integrated, and it'll randomly break during the trip.

I understand it has become a standard but it's not a particularly good one, and adding it "just because it's a standard" would detract from the car experience in my opinion. It's a separate device, with a separate OS, kernel, apps etc where you can install almost anything, that's supposed to take over a piece of equipment that belongs with the car and controls all its functions. I'd really rather not have that.

If the infotainment is the basic "show 2D maps and a couple settings", then Android Auto/CarPlay can serve as a viable replacement for low-end cars. But when the car costs >30k and the screen is also the central command console, no thanks. I'd rather have proper OTA updates, give feedback, and see it evolve over time for the better.