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EwanG | 19 days ago

According to postings on a couple Reddit discussions, this surprised the El Paso city council among others:

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1r1r7tu/what_does...

and

https://www.reddit.com/r/ADSB/comments/1r1pqnp/10_day_tfr_is...

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shaky-carrousel|19 days ago

They probably lost a nuke in the area. Wouldn't be the first time.

pandemic_region|19 days ago

Honest question: do you mean it was stolen or it fell out of the plane by accident or something like that?

dathinab|19 days ago

speculations are it's either related to ICE or drug cartel investigations

The former has a long history of not cooperating with local authorities (also in ways I personally think are sometimes quite malicious but that is off topic). Und normal circumstances ICE would never have the power to lead to a shut down of air space, but with the current administration who knows.

And drug cartel investigations won't cooperate with the city council as an investigation big enough to shut down airspace wouldn't want to risk it leaking by speaking with a city council about it.

But this is a pretty big deal and lets hope this is just about preventing some high ranking drug cartel members from fleeing and not some retaliatory horror story implicitly triggered by the repeated public rejections and denouncements of Trump in recent week. Like if we look at full (and violent) dictatorships(1) you would expect an internet outage to follow and then a lot of people to die.

(1): To be clear no the US is not a full blown violent dictatorship. Even through things are bad, they are not "that" bad. Through IMHO there seem to be people in the government which want to make it exactly that bad.

expedition32|19 days ago

The president has way too much executive power. In my country everything is decided by a cabinet meeting in America one man orders and everyone obeys.

RIMR|19 days ago

>To be clear no the US is not a full blown violent dictatorship.

The key word you forgot here is "yet".

>Even through things are bad, they are not "that" bad.

They will get "that" bad if you take on the attitude that things aren't that bad.

>IMHO there seem to be people in the government which want to make it exactly that bad.

We should act accordingly then.