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coder543 | 18 days ago
I’ve also heard very good things about these two in particular:
- LightOnOCR-2-1B: https://huggingface.co/lightonai/LightOnOCR-2-1B
- PaddleOCR-VL-1.5: https://huggingface.co/PaddlePaddle/PaddleOCR-VL-1.5
The OCR leaderboards I’ve seen leave a lot to be desired.
With the rapid release of so many of these models, I wish there were a better way to know which ones are actually the best.
I also feel like most/all of these models don’t handle charts, other than to maybe include a link to a cropped image. It would be nice for the OCR model to also convert charts into markdown tables, but this is obviously challenging.
philipkglass|18 days ago
This project has been pretty easy to build with agentic coding. It's a Frankenstein monster of glue code and handling my particular domain requirements, so it's not suitable for public release. I'd encourage some rapid prototyping after you've spent an afternoon catching up on what's new. I did a lot of document OCR and post-processing with commercial tools and custom code 15 years ago. The advent of small local VLMs has made it practical to achieve higher accuracy and more domain customization than I would have previously believed.
[1] If you're building an advanced document processing workflow, be sure to read the post-processing code in the GLM code repo. They're doing some non-trivial logic to fuse layout areas and transform text for smooth reading. You probably want to store the raw model results and customize your own post-processing for uncommon languages or uncommon domain vocabulary. Layout is also easier to validate if you bypass their post-processing; it can make some combined areas "disappear" from the layout data.
dweekly|18 days ago
StableAlkyne|18 days ago
I remember that one clearing the scoreboard for many years, and usually it's the one I grab for OCR needs due to its reputation.
kergonath|18 days ago
chaps|18 days ago
The new models are similarly better compared to tesseract v4. But what I'll say is that don't expect new models to be a panacea for your OCR problems. The edge case problems that you might be trying to solve (like, identifying anchor points, or identifying shared field names across documents) are still pretty much all problematic still. So you should still expect things like random spaces or unexpected characters to jam up your jams.
Also some newer models tend to hallucinate incredibly aggressively. If you've ever seen an LLM get stuck in an infinite, think of that.
unknown|18 days ago
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sgc|18 days ago
What more are you looking for?
mixedmath|18 days ago
Also, do you have preferred OCR models in your experience? I've had some success with dots.OCR, but I'm only beginning to need to work with OCR.
coder543|18 days ago
Not for OCR.
Regardless of how much some people complain about them, I really do appreciate the effort Artificial Analysis puts into consistently running standardized benchmarks for LLMs, rather than just aggregating unverified claims from the AI labs.
I don't think LMArena is that amazing at this point in time, but at least they provide error bars on the ELO and give models the same rank number when they're overlapping.
> Also, do you have preferred OCR models in your experience?
It's a subject I'm interested in, but I don't have enough experience to really put out strong opinions on specific models.
noahjohannessen|18 days ago
fzysingularity|18 days ago
I think a more accurate reflection of the current state of comparisons would be a real-world benchmark with messy/complex docs across industries, languages.
coder543|18 days ago
It also doesn't provide error bars on the ELO, so models that only have tens of battles are being listed alongside models that have thousands of battles with no indication of how confident those ELOs are, which I find rather unhelpful.
A lot of these models are also sensitive to how they are used, and offer multiple ways to be used. It's not clear how they are being invoked.
That leaderboard is definitely one of the ones that leaves a lot to be desired.