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timmg | 18 days ago

> I feel like especially the West is regressing on climate change with the rise of the far right

Is it the "far right"? Or is it that technology and fertility have actually lowered the risks substantially?

Solar plus batteries, right now, seems to be the cheapest form of new energy. Given that, you would expect most of new energy to be "green". (And if you look at the stats, that seems to be coming true.)

Electrification of transportation is happening quickly. China is cranking out cheap electric cars that are generally better than ICE cars of yesterday. And the world seems to be transitioning.

And fertility rates are dropping everywhere. So the amount of people we will need to support in the future continues to decline.

I've mostly stopped worrying about climate change. Not because I don't think it is real. But because I think we are clearly on the path to mitigating the worse scenarios.

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Rebelgecko|18 days ago

The far right leader of my country just created a new policy forcing the military to buy electricity from coal plants, even when it's more expensive

hackingonempty|18 days ago

> I think we are clearly on the path to mitigating the worse scenarios.

This evidence based article published in one of the worlds top scientific journals comes to the opposite conclusion.

maybelsyrup|18 days ago

> Is it the "far right"?

Yes, it is. They're committed to "Every molecule of hydrocarbon will come out". [0]. They keep saying this to us, and we don't seem to believe them. I like your optimism, and I'm not denying a lot of what you're saying -- renewables fast becoming the cheapest energy. But that's not deterring people: the far right here in the US are about to dismantle the government's legal rationale for regulating emissions. They're laughing at us right now, doing victory laps. They're telling polluters to take the gloves off.

These people are terrorists, extremists, and they're in charge of the world's single most powerful economy and military. They're obsessed with domination, with doing violence to the weak and the poor and to nature. It's pure Freudian thanatos.

It's just hard to take your position.

[0] https://theecologist.org/2023/dec/05/every-molecule-hydrocar...

akramachamarei|18 days ago

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the "far-right", but you seem to be implying this 'every molecule' quote (or more charitably, the goal) is of the "far-right" in the U.S. In reality the quote is from Saudi energy minister Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman. I mean, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Saudi Arabia is considered far-right governed but I doubt your wording is giving the correct impression to readers.

greekrich92|18 days ago

This is all rational thinking if you don't know or care to know the actual scale of global warming

clumsysmurf|18 days ago

Yep, its the far right.

The Heritage Foundation (Project 2025, far-right, anti-climate) is working with the Heartland Institute (spreading climate science denial across UK / EU) / Alliance for Responsible Citizenship (ARC, Jordan Peterson)

They do not like EU rules that hold US firms accountable to climate laws.

https://www.desmog.com/2026/02/10/donald-trump-uk-eu-maga-sl...

timmg|18 days ago

Sorry, I'm not saying the far-right isn't (whatever) anti-climate change.

I just meant that I don't think the lack of concern is necessarily due to them. I think it may have more to do with the reality that we are already on a good path.

Bill Gates famously wrote a "note" about it last year: https://www.gatesnotes.com/work/accelerate-energy-innovation...