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PlunderBunny | 18 days ago

Given the way current LLMs hallucinate, and given that Apple (presumably) won’t accept this behaviour in Siri, I’m skeptical that existing technology (or existing technology scaled up) can ever create the Siri Apple and its customers want.

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Jgrubb|18 days ago

I'll settle for "gets voice to text right most of the time". Seriously, Apple is so far behind on the cheapest table stakes at this point I highly doubt their high standards is the issue.

FireBeyond|18 days ago

Oh absolutely. The amount of times I have to pause, take a deep breathe and OVER-enunciate (still with mixed success) because my voice, pulse rise and my patience decreases with every absolute butchering (like not even "close but no cigar" but "how on earth did you come up with that?") Siri does to dictated text message in CarPlay...

PlunderBunny|18 days ago

Yeah, but isn't the voice recognition (as opposed to voice comprehension) separate from the supposedly LLM powered bit of Siri? I want better voice comprehension too, but I don't think that moving to a LLM powered Siri will solve that.

meroes|18 days ago

Literally what's the difference between that and Siri now.

Siri can't understand or pronounce very well.

A few weeks ago Siri via Car Play responded to a text and sent it without me saying a word or radio on, and with the setting where it asks first before sending enabled. It responding "Why?" to a serious text was seriously inconvenient in the moment. I watched it happen in disbelief.

PlunderBunny|18 days ago

(Edit: Didn't see your last paragraph before writing the response below)

I think there is a distinction between Siri misunderstanding what was said (which you can see/hear), and Siri understanding what you said but hallucinating an answer. In both cases, you strictly have to check the result, but in the first case it's clear that you've been misunderstood.

myvoiceismypass|17 days ago

The Siri experience just really really really sucks for the year being 2026. So much more frustrating than the claude and chatgpt experiences I have had in recent months.

To my Apple Watch: "Hey Siri, tell me what the time is in the central time zone right now"

"I found this on the web", watch shows a link to time.gov

The only thing I find Siri useful for is: a voice-activated timer, handy in the kitchen when my hands are full and I am juggling multiple timed process. It does that well about 80% of the time.

FireBeyond|18 days ago

I don't think that's at all a safe presumption, given that AI still happily hallucinates summaries of text messages/email that is contradictory to that actual content of the message.

PlunderBunny|18 days ago

Unless I misunderstand your reply, I think we're agreeing.

vachina|18 days ago

Yeah. Apple don’t half ass things. This is why people take their products seriously.

ragazzina|18 days ago

You are in a thread complaining about the most half-assed digital assistant in the industry.