[unclad5968]

In comparison to c++ everything is minimal. The Zig std lib doesn't seem that minimal to me. The package manager makes it easy to add dependencies, but whether that's even a good thing is controversial. std::regex might suck, but the maintainer won't disappear overnight leaving you to find a new regex library.

> Raise the Bar for Inclusion

The bar for inclusion in c++ is more political than it is technical. You have to write a paper that outlines all the details of your proposal, then go to some meeting, defend your paper and then the committee votes on it. Unless you're special you're required to have a reference implementation. If the bar for c++ inclusion was technical, we wouldn't have gotten the response we did from Sutter regarding Baxter's safe c++ proposal. The bar for inclusion in Zig is whether Andrew likes it or not, which is fine, but it isn't possible for c++ to revert to that model.

[hdjrudni]

Bjarne just visited us recently. The vibe I got from him is that the language has escaped him and he does not agree with all the things that did or didn't make into the language. But I suppose he's getting to that age where he would have to release the reigns anyway.