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iamtheworstdev | 18 days ago

Ever feel like these things are being burned down not just on purpose, but for the gains of someone else?

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consumer451|18 days ago

Well, yes, but that someone else doesn’t need to be a foreign adversary.

There is a certain type of mentality that just doesn’t believe that government should do anything, and that private enterprise will always have the solution.

Those people appear to be in control of all levers of power in the United States.

jmull|18 days ago

It's simpler than ideology about government vs. private enterprise. These are purely transactional people, looking out for what can benefit themselves. It's just about grabbing things for personal gain.

IG_Semmelweiss|18 days ago

Real world evidence doesn't seem to validate this position.

For example - The ratio of government employees (including contractors) to US population is at an all time high[1], and the ratio of GDP to government expense is at an all time high[2].

It should be obvious if you have a profilgate printer priting dollars left and right, and the printer's controllers livelyhood depends on the printer working, workers will eventually lease printing to anyone willing to pay the controllers.

Thus, doesn't seem like a problem of wealthy people to me. You are always going to have wealthy people in any society. But it seems the fault is at having a printer, and letting people who aren't your neighbor, to control it.

I'm open minded in this being a "Chicken or egg" Problem. But I'd need to hear a compelling argument for it.

[1] https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-true-size-of-governme...

[2] https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/exp@FPP/USA

relaxing|18 days ago

You think they truly believe private enterprise is going to defend the country from cyberattacks?

_DeadFred_|17 days ago

That is basically the Republicans' entire existence at this point. They would rather blow it up/make it disfunction/burn in down than have a working government. They have proven so with actions/policy like their willingness to pile destructive levels of debt onto the nation in order leverage the damage to their political goal of destroying government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

pavlov|18 days ago

But they seem to also believe in heavy-handed government intervention to prop up failing businesses. For example Trump's recent announcement that he'll require the military to buy coal power on long-term contracts:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/02/trumps-latest-plan-t...

So on the one hand they're saying government shouldn't do anything, but on the other hand they love having the government put its finger on the scales of the market.

donkeybeer|17 days ago

No these aren't no government types otherwise they'd be jan 6'ing every capitol when tariffs were imposed. These people are just trumpbots, there is no philosophy or consistency you will be able to find. They are not smart enough leastways to even in theory hold any philosophical position.

unbalancedevh|18 days ago

Each new fire is a distraction from the chaos created by the previous one.

curt15|18 days ago

It's a distraction only if people let themselves be distracted.

pjc50|18 days ago

It's amazing what people will ignore to suit their prejudices. The Presidential cryptocurrency should have been the clearest signal that this was going to be all-grift, all of the time. I don't think any previous President would have been allowed to destroy half of the White House, either. The exact sort of thing that, if an "enemy" had did it, they would be demanding a war over.

idiotsecant|18 days ago

Yes, a thousand little petty warlords in waiting.

notanastronaut|18 days ago

We're in an era of Disaster Capitalism. Some of the richest people have realized they've nearly extracted all the money they can gain on the current trajectory of nations and came to the conclusion they can make even more money if they destroy everything and then are the ones to rebuild society, their way.

Fallout's storyline from the live-action series, where Vault-Tec dropped the first nuke and started the apocalypse simply so they could wipe out the competition and rebuild later, is a little too on-the-nose.

nullocator|18 days ago

Ya historically this doesn't traditionally work out for the rich instigators/accelerationist. idk maybe their bunkers are immune from having dirt shoved in the air intakes, either way it's not clear to me that they understand that the people they are trying to fuck over the hardest are the ones who know how to work all the industrial equipment and built the bunkers.

jfalcon|18 days ago

You did get the memo from POTUS that loyalty is more important than intelligence, right?

Un-bias intelligence in this operation is not welcomed. One is told what is "factual truth" (not facts themselves) by those who operate out of Pennsylvania Avenue in DC.

If you're not blindly loyal and in line with the administration, then you'll be at risk of losing whatever role you have unless your loyalty is proven then you may receive some of that back based on how much you have demonstrated.

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