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kitd | 17 days ago
- See if you can find reasons for rejecting it. If you don’t, others will.
This is good advice IME. Get well acquainted (like REALLY well acquainted) with opposing viewpoints, such that you could argue them better than their proponents. See also "Argue Well by Losing" by Phil Haack [1].
Somewhat relatedly, the ancients viewed Rhetoric as the purest expression of intelligence. It required you to have deep knowledge of a topic, including all arguments in favour and against (implying deep empathy with the audience), and the ability to form coherent and meaningful argument. Modern political "debate" is ludicrous in comparison.
[1] https://haacked.com/archive/2013/10/21/argue-well-by-losing....
rhcom2|17 days ago
nradov|17 days ago
mothballed|17 days ago
Although maybe this method only works for me because I am a moron, and many people can out reason me, so the only way I can discover anything is to do something all reasonable and rational people are already sure is wrong.
bigbadfeline|17 days ago
Happens all the time.
> and only an empirical test can separate the wheat from the chaff.
Not for the vast majority of political issues and indeed for most of Social Sciences. In these cases, empirical evidence is just an accessory, it's still evidence but it's never conclusive, you need reasoning to sort out the complexity.
swed420|17 days ago
"Rhetoric" is an unfortunately overloaded term, as modern political "debate" is often nothing more than (the other definition of) rhetoric.
godelski|17 days ago
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46997906
renato_shira|17 days ago
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