> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).
> For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.
> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).
that's exactly my understanding as a non-native English speaker who haven't even read the article :-)
in my native language, they both share same word - disk (hard disk, compact disk), though floppy disk had it's own word
Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.
The term "disc" for storage predates optical media. "Disc" was the common spelling for a disk (like a floppy disk) on British 8-bit computers like Amstrad CPC or Sinclair Spectrum.[1][2]
It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]
I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.
Disk was already the standard spelling in the UK by 1984 (in a computing context), just as program was used in preference to programme. But Amstrad mistyped it as disc on the plastic mouldings for their first CPC, and were too cheap to change them. Consequently CPC 3in disks were always called discs even into the 90s.
This is goofy. The difference was originally regional (US/UK), and which caught on depended on which product dominated which sub-market. There's no semantic difference.
Philips is the company that came up with the term "Compact Disc" for CDs, so we can blame them for goofing up the regional spellings and making the world more confusing.
I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.
The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D
There was a subculture communicating on FIDOnet about collecting AOL installation media (3.5" disks) and reusing them. Somehow we ended up coining the term "bisk" to refer to AOL's given-away media, and much sadness was had when they moved to CDs.
So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.
A disc jockey is an entertainer who spins records or compact discs to play music.
A discothèque is a nightclub where disc jockeys can perform live, spinning to create a party atmosphere for socializing and dancing.
In the United States, the word was quickly shortened to "disco" and became closely associated with the mirror ball on the ceiling and the eponymous style of music and dancing.
So when new styles of music overtook the nightclubs, they shed the "disco" appellation as well. It seems to still enjoy a lot of use in European cities, though.
Always thought that “disc” was the original word for an object of a certain shape. As they evolved for computer storage, we got smaller diskettes… which were abbreviated to disks.
When I was much more active in Reddit did one time a meme for r/peloton of Froome yelling at disc brakes - but wrote it as "Old man yells at disk brakes".
Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.
But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"
Both versions are disque in French. (presumably disquette for "diskette") Don't blame the French for this.
The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.
bmacho|17 days ago
> For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disk#Usage_notes
Markoff|17 days ago
that's exactly my understanding as a non-native English speaker who haven't even read the article :-)
in my native language, they both share same word - disk (hard disk, compact disk), though floppy disk had it's own word
sandworm101|17 days ago
karmakaze|17 days ago
sedatk|17 days ago
It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]
I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.
[1] Kempston Disc Interface manual: https://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Peripherals/Disc%20I...
[2] Amstrad Disc Drive Interface manual: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/3/3f/DDI-1_User_Manual.pdf
[3] Etymonline entry for "disk": https://www.etymonline.com/word/disk
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innocentoldguy|17 days ago
I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.
The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D
fainpul|17 days ago
Trying to explain arbitrary words with logic always fails.
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coffee--|17 days ago
So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.
bonesss|17 days ago
[Did I pass the interview? No? Understandable.]
OhMeadhbh|17 days ago
RupertSalt|17 days ago
A discothèque is a nightclub where disc jockeys can perform live, spinning to create a party atmosphere for socializing and dancing.
In the United States, the word was quickly shortened to "disco" and became closely associated with the mirror ball on the ceiling and the eponymous style of music and dancing.
So when new styles of music overtook the nightclubs, they shed the "disco" appellation as well. It seems to still enjoy a lot of use in European cities, though.
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satiated_grue|16 days ago
For one quickly Googled example, the Sperry Univac 8433, may its heads never crash:
https://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/univac/1100/brochure...
delichon|17 days ago
9rx|17 days ago
skeptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense magnetically.
dboreham|17 days ago
"Disc" is the correct spelling of the flat circular thing.
"Disk" was invented by someone in the 1980s either as an attempt at a trade name, or because they couldn't spell.
Then other people continued the mis spelling.
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OhMeadhbh|17 days ago
[Edit. Sorry, misread your comment as saying "entomology."]
_wire_|17 days ago
A disc is a disk-shaped object, such as in the form of a plastic dingus: Frisbee flying disc.
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dcminter|17 days ago
My late father never quite got out of the habit of calling it the "Winchester" - itself a nickname for a specific IBM drive model.
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dTal|17 days ago
Disk = round part hidden or no round part
Have I got it!?
Someone|17 days ago
All of that “in the UK”.
Looking at the store, they’re using “SSD Storage” for SSD.
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Gualdrapo|17 days ago
Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.
But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"
ndsipa_pomu|17 days ago
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ghurtado|17 days ago
"Disc" comes from "discus" (the plate thrown in the Olympics)
"Disk" comes from "diskette" (French for "small disc")
I probably just outed myself as a boomer assuming that was common knowledge.
forty|17 days ago
In French we say disque for both. it's pronounced the same as disk and disc.
bitwize|17 days ago
The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.
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