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What's the difference between a "disc" and a "disk"? (2023)

46 points| IndySun | 17 days ago |support.apple.com

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bmacho|17 days ago

> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).

> For all other uses, disk is preferred in American English and acceptable in Canadian English, and disc otherwise.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disk#Usage_notes

Markoff|17 days ago

> In most varieties of English, disk is the preferred spelling for magnetic media (hence floppy disk, hard disk, disk drive), whereas disc is preferred for optical media (hence compact disc, digital versatile disc, optical disc).

that's exactly my understanding as a non-native English speaker who haven't even read the article :-)

in my native language, they both share same word - disk (hard disk, compact disk), though floppy disk had it's own word

sandworm101|17 days ago

Also, disk is also used in "diskette", whereas disc stands alone. So as magnetic disks shrank and were called disketts on and off, they kept that spelling. Optical discs never really shrank over the years, never being called discettes.

karmakaze|17 days ago

It's all photons baby, sometimes virtual.

sedatk|17 days ago

The term "disc" for storage predates optical media. "Disc" was the common spelling for a disk (like a floppy disk) on British 8-bit computers like Amstrad CPC or Sinclair Spectrum.[1][2]

It seems like the distinction simply comes from British and American preferences.[3]

I have no idea how Apple jumped to such an arbitrary conclusion.

[1] Kempston Disc Interface manual: https://k1.spdns.de/Vintage/Sinclair/82/Peripherals/Disc%20I...

[2] Amstrad Disc Drive Interface manual: https://www.cpcwiki.eu/imgs/3/3f/DDI-1_User_Manual.pdf

[3] Etymonline entry for "disk": https://www.etymonline.com/word/disk

Doctor_Fegg|17 days ago

Disk was already the standard spelling in the UK by 1984 (in a computing context), just as program was used in preference to programme. But Amstrad mistyped it as disc on the plastic mouldings for their first CPC, and were too cheap to change them. Consequently CPC 3in disks were always called discs even into the 90s.

MarkusQ|17 days ago

This is goofy. The difference was originally regional (US/UK), and which caught on depended on which product dominated which sub-market. There's no semantic difference.

innocentoldguy|17 days ago

Philips is the company that came up with the term "Compact Disc" for CDs, so we can blame them for goofing up the regional spellings and making the world more confusing.

I think Alan Shugart (or at least his team at IBM) started calling portable data disks "floppy disks," and then "hard disk" emerged to differentiate rigid disks from bendy ones. Maybe we can also blame him and his team.

The important thing is that someone gets blamed. :D

fainpul|17 days ago

And where is the "drive" in an SSD?

Trying to explain arbitrary words with logic always fails.

coffee--|17 days ago

There was a subculture communicating on FIDOnet about collecting AOL installation media (3.5" disks) and reusing them. Somehow we ended up coining the term "bisk" to refer to AOL's given-away media, and much sadness was had when they moved to CDs.

So add one more to the list: a commercial disk reused for your custom .WAD files can be a bisk.

bonesss|17 days ago

The last letter.

[Did I pass the interview? No? Understandable.]

OhMeadhbh|17 days ago

Tron, if I remember correctly, had DISCS instead of DISKS. And if modern CPUs are RISCy, then maybe modern Intel architecture CPUs are Risky.

RupertSalt|17 days ago

A disc jockey is an entertainer who spins records or compact discs to play music.

A discothèque is a nightclub where disc jockeys can perform live, spinning to create a party atmosphere for socializing and dancing.

In the United States, the word was quickly shortened to "disco" and became closely associated with the mirror ball on the ceiling and the eponymous style of music and dancing.

So when new styles of music overtook the nightclubs, they shed the "disco" appellation as well. It seems to still enjoy a lot of use in European cities, though.

rikthevik|17 days ago

A disc looks like a disc, and a disk doesn't look like a disc.

karmakaze|17 days ago

Removeable glass magnetic platters were called disk packs and definitely disc shaped (but sometimes cylindrical if it had many platters).

addaon|17 days ago

Always thought that “disc” was the original word for an object of a certain shape. As they evolved for computer storage, we got smaller diskettes… which were abbreviated to disks.

delichon|17 days ago

  sceptic - skeptic
  mollusc - mollusk
  celt - kelt
  cabob - kabob
  disc - disk
Corporate wants you to find the difference.

9rx|17 days ago

sceptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense optically.

skeptic - someone inclined to question or doubt what they sense magnetically.

dboreham|17 days ago

Presumably this apple page is someone's idea of an April fool, date notwithstanding.

"Disc" is the correct spelling of the flat circular thing.

"Disk" was invented by someone in the 1980s either as an attempt at a trade name, or because they couldn't spell.

Then other people continued the mis spelling.

jimnotgym|17 days ago

This must be the right answer.

gaigalas|17 days ago

Apple, the etymology company.

OhMeadhbh|17 days ago

They certainly do have bugs.

[Edit. Sorry, misread your comment as saying "entomology."]

_wire_|17 days ago

A disk is any planar circular shape.

A disc is a disk-shaped object, such as in the form of a plastic dingus: Frisbee flying disc.

irishcoffee|17 days ago

Does anyone have a spate tire? My tyre popped, probably because someone jammed a 'y' in the middle.

ChrisArchitect|17 days ago

"Disks" as in floppy disks, are removable also. Some weird seperation choices in this 'article'.

dcminter|17 days ago

Plus a common alternative to "hard drive" was "hard disk."

My late father never quite got out of the habit of calling it the "Winchester" - itself a nickname for a specific IBM drive model.

asdfman123|17 days ago

As a quick and dirty heuristic: the C in disc is for CD (or other optical media).

dTal|17 days ago

Disc = round part visible

Disk = round part hidden or no round part

Have I got it!?

Someone|17 days ago

I think their primary difference is disc = optical, disk = magnetic. That’s what they mention first.

All of that “in the UK”.

Looking at the store, they’re using “SSD Storage” for SSD.

adamdonahue|17 days ago

So a floppy disk has a disc inside?

KwanEsq|17 days ago

No because they weren't optical, they were magnetic.

dheera|17 days ago

What about bloc vs block

Gualdrapo|17 days ago

When I was much more active in Reddit did one time a meme for r/peloton of Froome yelling at disc brakes - but wrote it as "Old man yells at disk brakes".

Nobody told me anything so I guessed it was good grammar and such.

But then noticed everyone calls them "disc brakes"

mieses|17 days ago

δίσκος

ghurtado|17 days ago

Kinda surprising that the article doesn't mention the actual origin of the words:

"Disc" comes from "discus" (the plate thrown in the Olympics)

"Disk" comes from "diskette" (French for "small disc")

I probably just outed myself as a boomer assuming that was common knowledge.

forty|17 days ago

Disquette*

In French we say disque for both. it's pronounced the same as disk and disc.

bitwize|17 days ago

Both versions are disque in French. (presumably disquette for "diskette") Don't blame the French for this.

The fact of the matter is that the spelling "disk" probably entered common use from IBM who invented both the hard and the floppy disk, calling the latter the Type 1 Diskette. Enough people were exposed to the "disk" spelling from IBM usage that it kind of stuck, although in the early 1980s the spelling "floppy disc" was sometimes encountered.

rf15|17 days ago

You are (rightfully) saying that they semantically mean kinda the same thing. That doesn't neatly fit any branding guideline though, I'm sorry.

DonHopkins|17 days ago

Pff! Disc comes from Disco!