[akersten]

So is Gemini tbh. It's the only agent I've used that gets itself stuck in ridiculous loops repeating "ok. I'm done. I'm ready to commit the changes. There are no bugs. I'm done."

Google somehow manages to fumble the easiest layups. I think Anthropic et al have a real chance here.

[0xcafefood]

Google's product management and discipline are absolute horsesh*t. But they have a moat and its extreme technical competence. They own their infra from the hardware (custom ASICs, their own data centers, global intranet, etc.) all the way up to the models and product platforms to deploy it in. To the extent that making LLMs work to solve real world problems is a technical problem, landing Gemini is absolutely in Google's wheelhouse.

[prabubio]

without modern product moat, legacy products and infrastructure is useless. It's like Microsoft saying I have excel, Azure and CoPilot.

[fluidcruft]

Just imagine how things change when Google realizes they can leverage their technical competenence to have Gemini build competent product management (or at least something that passes as comparatively competent since their bar is so low).

[WheatMillington]

Interesting that you consider the most cutting edge technology in the category to be "the easiest layups".

[marcus_holmes]

I think they've been gaming benchmarks.

I use Claude every day. I cannot get Gemini to do anything useful, at all. Every time I've tried to use it, it has just failed to do what was required.

[QuantumGood]

Hard to bet against Hassabis + Google's resources. This is in their wheelhouse, and it's eating their search business and refactoring their cloud business. G+ seemed like a way to get more people to Google for login and tracking.

[unmole]

> it's eating their search business

Fact not in evidence. Google's search and advertising revenue continues to grow.

[viking123]

Hassabis is not a grifter like Amodei, Google certainly has that going for them.

[milleramp]

Maybe it's incentive is to 'close the ticket' as fast as possible.

[BobbyTables2]

Indeed. The stupid AI on Google’s search page is so bad, I really wonder why the released it publicly.

Makes CoPilot look like something from a Sci-Fi movie.

[stephenhuey]

A couple months ago things were different. Try their stronger models. Gemini recently saved me from a needle in a haystack problem with buildpacks and Linux dependencies for a 14-year-old B2B SaaS app that I was solving a major problem for, and Gemini figured out the solution quickly after I worked on it for hours with Claude Code. I know it's just one story where Gemini won, and I have really enjoyed using Claude Code, but Google is having some success with the serious effort they're putting into this fight.

[what]

They recently replaced “define: word” (or “word meaning”) results with an “ai summary” and it’s decidedly worse. It used to just give you the definition(s) and synonyms for each one. Now it gives some rambling paragraphs.

[randerson]

I think they had no choice but to release that AI before it was ready for prime time. Their search traffic started dropping after ChatGPT came out, and they risked not looking like a serious player in AI.