[baby_souffle]

> Yep. Anyone got alternatives?

The self-hosted and home-automation and home-assistant subreddits are _full_ of discussion threads on this. The good news is that you have a TON of options to pick from. The bad news is that they're all deficient in one way or another so you really do have to spend a bit of time to figure out who executes best on the things you care most about.

If you don't mind the lock-in, Unifi is nice. Reolink (and the other DaHua re-brands) usually leave a lot to be desired in terms of software / quality but they are cheap and they reliably spit out a regular video stream that can be used with just about any software. Just don't let them onto the WAN!

[yndoendo]

Are there any such systems for general users that don't want to manage or maintain such systems?

Alternatives really need to be for the masses that have little Knowles in server hosting.

This is one reason I invest in Linux Smartphone company's that are work towards a clean solution for the masses. Daily drivers that are satisfactory for us build the stepping stones to walk to the alternative.

[Cyph0n]

Home Assistant has the plug and play Green box: https://www.home-assistant.io/green/

Hubitat is a different player in this space: https://hubitat.com/

[cmorgan31]

UniFi is simple to keep running and updated. It’s mostly plug and play as long as you have Ethernet lines. You sometimes have to hit update in the iPhone app.

[dyauspitr]

Any non-Chinese, plug and play systems? Does simplisafe offer on premise video surveillance?

[baby_souffle]

Unifi is it, really.