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How Apple allowed itself to get into this mess is a fascinating and not investigated enough question, IMO.

Same for Intel.

What is it that lets companies which are leaders in a particular field for decades suddenly unable to do the basics.

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bigyabai|16 days ago

Intel's demise is fairly well-understood; their CPU designs were fine, but the DUV Intel-fabbed silicon was not. Their recalcitrance towards EULV nodes meant that they were never going to remain competitive for the market segment they appealed to.

Apple's failure to improve the Mac seems pretty straightforward looking at their profit breakdowns. The Mac really is not ever their priority.

tambourine_man|16 days ago

> but the DUV Intel-fabbed silicon was not.

Sure, but why? Why the company that was on the fab forefront for decades and participated in EUV research was reluctant to bet on it?

> Apple's failure to improve the Mac seems pretty straightforward looking at their profit breakdowns. The Mac really is not ever their priority.

iOS very much is and it's a disaster as well.

zamalek|16 days ago

Intel very recently seems to be making progress thanks to what the previous CEO kicked off. People are comparing Panther Lake to M1 (but we'll see when it is in reviewers' hands).