[throwawayq3423]

Who was imprisoned for their speech against the US president by Obama and how did Snowden stop that?

Because that is exactly what we're talking about here. And if you don't have a like-for-like comparison, then we have nothing to discuss.

[iugtmkbdfil834]

If you think for a moment of arguing that throwing people in jail is the only way to impede someone's liberty, you are in for a world of a surprise.

[throwawayq3423]

It's the standard we're discussing. It's what Donald Trump's DHS is doing right now and the Snowden comparisons are irrelevant and imo a bad faith attempt at trying to muddy the waters.

Stop both sides-ing everything the Trump administration does to give them more oxygen to operate.

These are uniquely awful times.