[JPKab]

Reminder that HN is SV centered and therefore everyone and everything is oriented around tribal group think.

Meta was funded by Thiel, yet most of the people in this thread use their products.

The CCP has technology that dwarfs Palantir, but a ton of people in this thread use TikTok, because they don't recognize fascism unless it's perpetrated by somebody that looks like the Nazis they see in movies.

I grew up around brainwashed religious zealots. I hated it. Everything was this moralistic condemnation and guilt by association game, played by people who had absolutely no sense of perspective and had zero interactions outside of there group think circles. Constantly condemning people they don't know and have never met and don't understand.

I've been on HN for 13 years now. It looks more and more like that every day.

This comment will be down voted without any substantive critique other than "I guess you're a fascist too."

Meanwhile, Discord will not have the slightest tiny drop in user numbers, because nobody outside of this moralistic circle jerk cares.

[Etherlord87]

> Reminder that HN is SV centered and therefore everyone and everything is oriented around tribal group think.

Don't such absolute statements (everyone, everything) remind you of religion as well?

> Meta was funded by Thiel, yet most of the people in this thread use their products.

I imagine it might be as true as:

- most people in this thread also using Discord, despite criticizing it and

- most people using Meta criticize its products.

That is, You can use something and criticize it, and it probably happens both with Discord and e.g. Facebook.

> The CCP[…]

I'm happy to see in the political threads there's very often in the very least a significant presence of critique against China and maybe even overwhelming the defenders of the regime.

> I grew up around brainwashed religious zealots. […] moralistic condemnation […] [HN] looks more and more like that every day.

I think it's good religious zealots don't have the monopoly on moralistic condemnation. Just because A is bad, and B has feature x just like A, doesn't mean the feature x is bad.

> Meanwhile, Discord will not have the slightest tiny drop in user numbers, because nobody outside of this moralistic circle jerk cares.

Discord is not going to delete users, and few people care to request their account to be deleted. If Discord asked me to provide ID, I'd probably at least try to resist by not using it and maybe eventually succumb by providing a fake ID - but as far as I know, Discord will just set my account to a teenager mode, so instead of speaking about a drop in user numbers, we should speak about a drop of activity in adult interactions (or interactions/activity in general) on Discord.

[mingus88]

Spot on. I wish this site was never associated with the term hacker because under the thin veneer of people doing cool things with tech, there is today nothing more authoritarian, narrow minded, overconfident and establishment than SV tech culture.

[collingreen]

> Constantly condemning people they don't know and have never met and don't understand.

> therefore everyone and everything is oriented around tribal group think

You can be more convincing if you don't group everyone into one bucket and throw insults at it.

A reader can pull your claims out - meta bad, thiel bad, ccp bad, sheeple bad - but there isn't anything substantive there (WHY are these bad; it's all ad hominem so far) and we have to sift through a bunch of insults in order to do it ( 1. Tribal group thinkers. 2. Can't recognize fascism. 3. Looking like religious zealots blindly condemning people we don't know. 4. Going to downvote without thinking or participating.)

Your comment looks a LOT like insult #3 up there, with some whining thrown in on top.

If you want a substantive conversation or debate about the different facets of data privacy then lay the groundwork with some good faith place to start. If you instead just post mini screeds pre-insulting everyone then lamenting that nobody engages then nothing is going to change for you.