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stickfigure | 15 days ago

I think this wave of guilt-by-association is starting to go a bit too far. There were some douchebags around Epstein, for sure. But knowing a douchebag, taking donations from a douchebag, or even going to parties hosted by a douchebag does not automatically make you a douchebag. Social people go to a lot of parties, and money is just money.

Call out the miscreants and bad behavior in the Epstein files, sure. But be specific. I don't like these articles insinuating "the world is full of douchebags". It isn't.

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watwut|15 days ago

Oh please, the actual files have these people not just vaguely knowing Epstein, but asking him for help with dating, using him as advisor in dealing with sexual harassment issues in their schools (!), actually helping him to get further connections, connecting him to girls, praising him for intelligence in public and so on and so forth.

Epstein credit with them went up after he was convicted, not down. They were perfectly fine with who Epstein was and what he was doing.

Epstein thing did not went far enough at all. Instead, the actors are being protected, circling the wagons against each other.

UncleMeat|14 days ago

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when reading all of these "what is the big deal about being in the Epstein files" takes.

Like, there are people asking for Epstein's advice on how to fuck women that they have huge positions of authority and saying that she is "doomed" sleep with them. And these people haven't lost any material status yet! There are people asking Epstein for help suing feminists who sought to share stories of workplace sexual harassment. And there are tons of people who have publicly said "I was never friends with Epstein" all but making doe-eyes at him in their emails.

And suddenly we have a raft of "oh is it bad to have friends" and "don't all men want to fuck 16 year olds" articles coming from all corners. Insane.

DemocracyFTW2|15 days ago

Replace "douchebag" with what you should have written, namely "convicted child sex trafficker, rapist, drug and weapons dealer, torturer and sexual predator", and nothing what you said is anywhere near acceptable.

Besides, the article does not insinuate that "the world is full of douchebags"; it claims that a surprising proportion of people in a very specific, small subset of all people—male authors of a certain age connected to the Edge Institute—apparently had no qualms associating themselves with a person of the aforementioned description. You make it sound trifling when you call it "bad behavior".