[dctoedt]

> nobody has been killed that wasn’t carrying a gun with extra ammo or striking cops with their vehicle.

The video evidence shows beyond peradventure that Renee Good didn't strike the ICE agent — who isn't a cop — with her vehicle.

EDIT: See the NY Times's frame-by-frame, time-synchronized compilation of the various videos [0], especially starting at about 3:42 in that video [1].

The agent wasn't hit by Good's vehicle - starting at 4:53 of the video [2], he was standing well away from her vehicle (see 5:42 [3]), leaning on it with his hand on the front fender, and his feet slipped as she was trying to pull away.

He wasn't hit or run over — at most he was slightly pushed by the vehicle. His reaction — "fucking bitch" [4].

As to Alex Pretti: You're focusing like a laser on a fact — if such it be — that's completely irrelevant.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9R9dAmws6M And yes, I firmly believe the NY Times tries to get it right, and corrects their errors on the rare occasions that they make them.

[1] https://youtu.be/D9R9dAmws6M?si=hqGlX9J0Iwpveqwu&t=222

[2] https://youtu.be/D9R9dAmws6M?si=UKhDNxdXaCFhvdr0&t=293

[3] https://youtu.be/D9R9dAmws6M?si=7WNCsHcPm7b6ycJ-&t=334

[4] https://youtu.be/D9R9dAmws6M?si=RiHOgMrJGxgqmq_8&t=389

[mindslight]

> The video evidence shows beyond peradventure that Renee Good didn't strike an ICE agent

Let's not get caught up arguing about the play-by-play details. There will always be rabid disagreement regardless of merit, causing us to miss the crux of the matter. The important big-picture dynamic is that the agent set up the situation so he'd have an excuse to kill the next person who tried to drive away from him, directly contrary to ICE's own policies. That would be second degree murder, if the perp weren't a member of a protected class.

[like_any_other]

The top-right video of your first link, at the 47-55 second time mark, literally shows her car hitting him.

[dctoedt]

That's not how it looks to me. Her vehicle seems to come close and might even touch the agent's leg — maybe (the narration says no). But "hitting him" doesn't seem to be a reasonable way to describe it, even granting that the video clip is in slow motion.

https://youtu.be/D9R9dAmws6M?si=xdxZIHQGODS9fB3e&t=323

[dctoedt]

See my edited comment, with a link to the NY Times's frame-by-frame, time-synced compilation of various video angles. She didn't run over him or even hit him.