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slekker | 14 days ago

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esskay|14 days ago

About as bad as a US based server then if we're being realistic. EU based (and not owned by Amazon/MS/Google/etc) seems like the only semi secure hosting option these days.

embedding-shape|14 days ago

More generally useful answer: Anything you input into the internet lives (probably) on not-your-servers, treat the information you give away accordingly.

eckelhesten|14 days ago

Honestly, that’s way better than having my data stored in US or Israel. The further away from home the better.

nylon4831|14 days ago

> those who care about this stuff

and OpenClaw users are mutually exclusive

pbronez|14 days ago

Yes. Kimi is a brand of Moonshot Ai. Moonshot is legally incorporated in Singapore; executives and devs are mostly in Beijing.

They reportedly use Alibaba cloud extensively, at least for training. Terms of Service say the service is governed by Singaporean law.

Personally, I’d assume the CCP has full access to every packet you send them. K series of models looks cool; you can run they M through Azure if you prefer to do business with a western entity or self host.

igravious|14 days ago

So?

Yes Moonshot AI is a Chinese corp. So?

Under every OpenAI or Anthropic article do you put "Disclaimer for those who care about this stuff: the servers are in the USA." If not, why not?

And to what stuff do you refer?

aspect0545|14 days ago

I wouldn’t want either US or Chinese corporations to have access to my sensitive data. But if I had to choose, which I luckily don’t, I’d choose the US. That stuff I guess.

versale|14 days ago

> Yes Moonshot AI is a Chinese corp. So?

Obviously it means the product contains less democracy than required for many.