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barnabee | 14 days ago

I buy the support argument for companies.

I also buy the argument that a lot of time people are actually paying for cloud storage. While I'd love to see a generic protocol for cloud or self-hosted storage that every app can sync to, I expect we'll continue to see subscription software persist by locking down and gatekeeping cloud storage and sync, too.

But really I would be happy for that to go away.

I don't use much software that's sold in any way[0], and I'd prefer it to be none. The ideal situation is for it to always be better to collaborate on open source software than to build in private and keep it to yourself.

[0] I do donate to projects I like and use, though

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tonyedgecombe|13 days ago

>The ideal situation is for it to always be better to collaborate on open source software than to build in private and keep it to yourself.

This works for some software (developer tools is the prime example) but not so much for other things. Who is going to maintain the MTD software I used for my VAT returns without recompense. Who is going to update the PAYE payroll software I relied on.

Even with developer tools I feel we will lose something without companies like JetBrains. There would be no Kotlin without people paying for their software.

That's before you think about huge corporations leeching off of our free work or the AI companies vacuuming up open source only to regurgitate it for $200 a month.

Developers should consider that most people value things by how much they pay and if they aren't paying anything then you and your work can't have much value.

barnabee|13 days ago

> Developers should consider that most people value things by how much they pay and if they aren't paying anything then you and your work can't have much value.

Most people in most situations pay as little as they can get away with not as much as they value the product or service.

The only time this is arguably somewhat untrue is when the point of having the thing is to signal wealth, but even someone buying e.g. a Rolex wants to do so as cheaply as possible, so it's only really true when they're directly spending the money in front of people (think bar, restaurant, nightclub, etc.)

I agree that right now it's mostly developer tools that are doing best in terms of open source. But browsers, operating systems, 3D modelling software, image/photo editing, and many others are not so far behind either.

My assertion/belief[0], though, is that the direction of travel is for open source to become dominant in more and more classes of software, especially as AI reduces the cost of contribution and collaboration, and disincentivises closed, proprietary software.

[0] Based on what I and others around me have been able to do with AI already and how fast it is moving.