[cududa]

Good. It’s always insane to me that they get 1% of the iPhone CPU cost of ~$68 or something there around.

There was a lawsuit in 2020 or 2021 where some evidence was unsealed showing ARM gets 1% of the CPU cost. I can’t recall how that CPU cost was calculated - but I believe that was a part of their deal through the early 30’s. That’s less than a dollar per iPhone.

[lysace]

Not that I wouldn't want Apple to pay ARM more, but,

a) Apple is getting really good at switching CPU architectures when needed.

b) Don't they already have a forever licence to the ARM ISA (since the 90s/Newton) as well as a substantial in-house design team? I guess the renegotiations are about future/roadmapped ARM archictural enhancements.

It would be sad if there was a substantial fork of the arm64 ISA.

[throwaway72361]

Apple doesn't have a "forever" license. They have an architectural license, similar to a small number of other Arm architectural licensees, with certain contractual payment terms, lengths, restrictions, and timelines for extension, etc. The idea that Apple has a special, perpetual free license to Arm ISA/technology as a result of their involvement in its founding is a myth.

[faragon]

It's "fair": ARM takes 1% of the iPhone CPU, i.e., less than 0.1% of the total phone price, while Apple takes 30% of the apps in the iStore

[thisislife2]

Spot on! The 1% is indeed absolutely reasonable when you consider the 30% or so Apple tries to leech of from both developers and its user base.

[hollerith]

--and about 50% of the total price of an iPhone.