[cm2187]

What is the version used by the free chatgpt now? (https://chatgpt.com/)

> Since the car wash is only 50 meters away (about 55 yards), you should walk.

> Here’s why:

> - It’ll take less than a minute.

> - No fuel wasted.

> - Better for the environment.

> - You avoid the irony of driving your dirty car 50 meters just to wash it.

the last bullet point is amusing, it understands you intend to wash the car you drive but still suggests not bringing it.

[jibal]

> You avoid the irony of driving your dirty car 50 meters just to wash it.

The LLM has very much mixed its signals -- there's nothing at all ironic about that. There are cases where it's ironic to drive a car 50 meters just to do X but that definitely isn't one of them. I asked Claude for examples; it struggled with it but eventually came up with "The irony of driving your car 50 meters just to attend a 'walkable neighborhoods' advocacy meeting."

[optimalsolver]

That's actually an amusing example from Claude.

[hearsathought]

> it understands you intend to wash the car you drive but still suggests not bringing it.

Doesn't it actually show it doesn't understand anything? It doesn't understand what a car is. It doesn't understand what a car wash is. Fundamentally, it's just parsing text cleverly.

[deaux]

By default for this kind of short question it will probably just route to mini, or at least zero thinking. For free users they'll have tuned their "routing" so that it only adds thinking for a very small % of queries, to save money. If any at all.

[unglaublich]

I don't understand this approach. How are you going to convince customers-to-be by demoing an inferior product?

[hackable_sand]

I don't understand why they need to save money...

[mytailorisrich]

I think this shows that LLMs do NOT 'understand' anything.

[Windchaser]

> I think this shows that LLMs do NOT 'understand' anything.

It shows these LLMs don't understand what's necessary for washing your car. But I don't see how that generalizes to "LLMs do NOT 'understand' anything".

What's your reasoning, there? Why does this show that LLMs don't understand anything at all?

[andy12_]

I think this rather shows that GPT 5.2 Instant, which is the version that he most probably used as a free user, is shit and unsusable for anything.

[sunaookami]

Gemini 3 Flash answers tongue-in-cheek with a table of pro & cons where one of the cons of walking is that you are at the car wash but your car is still at your home and recommends to drive it if I don't have an "extremely long brush" or don't want to push it to the car wash. Kinda funny.

[jwe]

As long as there is a forum as technical as this where LLM performance commentary uses the word "it understands" irony is still alive.