[gnfargbl]

In a couple of decades of work, I have never actually met anyone like Julius. Typically, I have found that those who excel at listening and presenting are also capable of understanding the technology at an appropriate level for their role -- it's not like this stuff is truly complicated, after all.

I have met quite a few people who are more focussed on the business than the technology, but those people tend to end up in jobs where the main problems aren't actually technical. Which, let's be honest, is the case in very many tech jobs.

[wolfi1]

oh man, I have met several Juliuses. one of them was my boss till he made an error as similar to the one the original Julius made, but unfortunately too late I had to leave the company earlier he made my life hell. now he is at another company, as long as he is at this company I won't apply there, if they hire him they have no place for me

[coldtea]

No end of Juliuses. And they're not even the worst type you can meet at a software company.

[rozap]

There are so many. I think if you haven't met a Julius, chances are you are Julius..

[rustystump]

I have met armies of julius at all levels. Id say 80% of people are julius and if u dont think so then i have some news for you.

It is always like this. Your ability to socialize will bring you further than any other skillset. The Kennedys for example manufactured their status by socializing. Industry is no different.

[JackFr]

> The Kennedys for example manufactured their status by socializing.

And generational wealth and serious political power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Fitzgerald

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_Sr.

[ptero]

Humans are social animals and good social skills is a major benefit almost everywhere, including at work. This does not make most people juliuses.

[direwolf20]

80% of people you meet are communicating to your customers that the server doesn't have an IP address for security reasons?

[closewith]

> Id say 80% of people are julius and if u dont think so then i have some news for you.

> Industry is no different.

Based on these comments, maybe some self-reflection is in order, as it seems from the 80% comment that what you mean is that 80% of people are able to adequately communicate.

[shabatar]

The question is how does one become julius

[tracerbulletx]

And yet this thread is completely full of Frank Grimes.

[nuancebydefault]

That number feels off by a lot to me. I think i can say i'm quite good at socializing, quite above average when comparing to people I meet and work with. I'd rate my engineering skills about average level and i have a firm dislike of fraud and of people acting to be better/smarter/faster than they really are. In my career I've come across managers of the julius type, as well of the narcissistic type, even a sociopath. I would estimate 10 to 20 percent of people are of the Julius type.