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Not sure what straw man you’re replying to but you seem to overlook that ensuring people are in a state by why they are able to conduct business reliably is a good thing. To do that providing some assistance is often required. Which if you read the full interview with him you’d realise was the point he was making, not that large swathes of people should be sustained to the bare minimum existence entirely on handouts in perpetuity.