[jonathanlydall]

Like all languages, C#, Java, etc have cargo-cultist developers who use them badly, and in the case OOP languages, doing things like overdoing the separation of concerns.

However, speaking as someone who actually uses C# day in and day out and understands the trade-offs of different levels of (or even no) separation of concerns, it's not done for us to "feel" good.

On very large projects running for a very long time with many developers coming and going with varying levels of competency, an appropriate amount of separation of concerns and decent "plumbing" can be the difference between a code base enduring decades or becoming essentially unmaintainable due to unchecked entropy and complexity.

[jamesfinlayson]

Yep, agreed. I worked on two PHP codebases at a company many years ago - the "old" and the "new". The old was just frameworkless PHP with three different ways of doing controllers, partial templates with no closing tags so that they could be inserted anywhere without breaking the page, inline SQL in the templates etc. The new was hugely complicated with long inheritance chains and multiple classes with the same name but in different directories... but it was structured and you couldn't easily do anything wild.