top | item 47035141

(no title)

evaXhill | 14 days ago

Seems quite absurd that they would shut down the only system that could tell journalists what was actually happening in the criminal courts under the pretext that they sent information to a third-party AI company (who doesn’t these days). Here’s a rebuttal by one of the founders i believe: https://endaleahy.substack.com/p/what-the-minister-said

discuss

order

anonymous908213|14 days ago

> (who doesn’t these days)

Absolutely fucking crazy that you typed this out as a legitimate defense of allowing extremely sensitive personal information to be scraped.

> only system that could tell journalists what was actually happening in the criminal courts

Who cares? Journalism is a dead profession and the people who have inherited the title only care about how they can mislead the public in order to maximize profit to themselves. Famously, "journalists" drove a world-renowned musician to his death by overdose with their self-interest-motivated coverage of his trial[1]. It seems to me that cutting the media circus out of criminal trials would actually be massively beneficial to society, not detrimental.

[1] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/one-of-the-most-shameful_b_61...

Aperocky|13 days ago

Information is either public or it is not.

If it is public, it will be scraped, AI companies are irrelevant here.

If information is truly sensitive, do not make it public, and that's completely fine. This might have been the case here.

dirasieb|13 days ago

Absolutely fucking crazy that you call accurately describing the reality of AI scraping "absolutely fucking crazy" while at the same time going "who cares?" on attacks against journalism and free speech.

>Oh no, some musician died, PASS THE NATIONAL SECURITY ACT, LOCK DOWN ALL INFORMATION ABOUT CRIMINALS, JAIL JOURNALISTS!!!!

ferngodfather|13 days ago

It's not the "only" system to be fair. CourtServe looks like it was built in the 90s but works "OK".

gadders|14 days ago

Based on that response, what the government are doing is dreadful.

phatfish|14 days ago

When there is a risk of feeding sensitive data to the AI giants the first reaction should be to pull the plug. I'm impressed the government acted quickly and decisively for once. Maybe the company involved will think twice before entering an agreement with an AI company. Notice in the whole rant it is never mentioned which AI giant they were feeding.

squidbeak|14 days ago

The government provided data to a private company. The private company sold resold access to a third party for AI ingestion. it's a plain case of tough titties to the private company.

That said I don't know why the hell the service concerned isn't provided by the government itself.

brightball|14 days ago

This aligns with what all of the conspiracy theorists have been saying about the UK over the last year. Maybe there is something to it.

phatfish|14 days ago

Everything aligns with internet conspiracy theories if you try hard enough.