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dvt | 13 days ago

I’m working on a DOM agent and I think MCP is overkill. You have a few “layers” you can imply by just executing some simple JS (eg: visible text, clickable surfaces, forms, etc). 90% of the time, the agent can imply the full functionality, except for the obvious edge cases (which trip up even humans): infinite scrolling, hijacking navigation, etc.

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Garlef|13 days ago

Question: Are you writing this under the assumption that the proposed WebMCP is for navigating websites? If so: It is not. From what I've gathered, this is an alternative to providing an MCP server.

Instead of letting the agent call a server (MCP), the agent downloads javascript and executes it itself (WebMCP).

0x696C6961|13 days ago

In what world is this simpler than just giving the agent a list of functions it can call?

Mic92|13 days ago

So usually MCP tool calls a sequential and therefore waste a lot of tokens. There is some research from Antrophic (I think there was also some blog post from cloudflare) on how code sandboxes are actually a more efficient interface for llm agents because they are really good at writing code and combining multiple "calls" into one piece of code. Another data point is that code is more deterministic and reliable so you reduce the hallucination of llms.

dvt|13 days ago

Who implements those functions? E.g., store.order has to have its logic somewhere.

Mic92|13 days ago

Do expose the accessibility tree of a website to llms? What do you do with websites that lack that? Some agents I saw use screenshots, but that seems also kind of wasteful. Something in-between would be interesting.

dvt|13 days ago

I actually do use cross-platform accessibility shenanigans, but for websites this is rarely as good as just doing like two passes on the DOM, it even figures out hard stuff like Google search (where ids/classes are mangled).