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lccerina | 13 days ago

Everyone: things suck, better move my stuff on a small home server. The hyper-scaler mafia: NOT ON MY WATCH!

The only silver lining is that newer devices will have to scale down memory, so developers will have to ditch memory-sucking frameworks and start to optimize things again.

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stingraycharles|13 days ago

I’m just afraid that prices of $everything will go up soon and will not come down anymore, like they did after Covid.

If it’s temporary I can live with it.

I guess this was inevitable with the absolute insane money being poured into AI.

wolvoleo|12 days ago

Many prices didn't really even come down much after COVID.

GPU prices never went back to normal. Harddrives neither, I bought 14TB drives 10 years ago for €200, they've never been that low again.

FrankBooth|13 days ago

We useless eaters are to be priced out of life soon enough.

stogot|13 days ago

I am afraid my NAS will have a hard drive failure, and I won’t be able to order replacements. I should’ve bought a back up

ethbr1|13 days ago

> If it’s temporary I can live with it. I guess this was inevitable with the absolute insane money being poured into AI.

Hyperscalars refresh hardware and firesale old stock.

~2028 is going to see a lot of high power refurb supply hit the market.

cube00|13 days ago

>If it’s temporary I can live with it.

Given this has been going on for years at this point, the high prices of graphics cards through crypto and now AI, it feels like this is the new normal, forever propped up by the next grift.

roysting|13 days ago

Traps tend to only go one way.

buran77|13 days ago

> I’m just afraid that prices of $everything will go up soon and will not come down anymore, like they did after Covid.

That's how inflation works. In this case it seems more narrow though, there's hope the prices will go down. Especially if the AI hype finds a reason to flounder.

iso1631|13 days ago

> I’m just afraid that prices of $everything will go up soon and will not come down anymore, like they did after Covid.

Just like the price of labour. Your salary went up and doesn't come down

In the UK weekly earnings increased 34% from December 2019 to December 2025.

CPI went up 30% in the same period.

Obviously that CPI covers things which went up more, and things which went up less, and your personal inflation will be different to everyone elses. Petrol prices end of Jan 2020 were 128p a litre, end of Jan 2025 they are 132p a litre [0]. Indeed petrol prices were 132p in January 2013. If you drive 40,000 miles a year you will thus see far lower inflation than someone who doesn't drive.

[0] https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/fuel-watch/

LoganDark|12 days ago

> so developers will have to ditch memory-sucking frameworks

Since when have developers ever lowered hardware requirements? Prosumers will just cough up the extra money while casual users will continue to be left in the dust, like they have been for practically the last decade (or longer).

lowdude|13 days ago

Unless people notice that they just built lots of useless datacenters and push back towards a mainframe + terminal setup, because ah sorry, modern software just runs much better that way, and you can save money on our inexpensive laptop with subscription model

pseudohadamard|12 days ago

>so developers will have to ditch memory-sucking frameworks and start to optimize things again.

Can you DM me your contact details? I have a nice shiny new bridge that I can get you a great deal on.

dgxyz|13 days ago

Saw this one coming and got my personal stuff out. It's running on an old Lenovo crate chucked in my hallway.

Work is fucked. 23TB of RAM online. Microservices FTW. Not. Each node has OS overhead. Each pod has language VM overhead. And the architecture can only cost more over time. On top of that "storage is cheap so we won't bother to delete anything". Stupid mentality across the board.

roysting|13 days ago

It is one tiny sliver of silver lining that “storage/memory/compute is cheap” nonsense that has produced all kinds of outsourced human slop code. That mentality is clearly going to have to die.

It could even become a kind of renaissance of efficient code… if there is any need for code at all.

The five guys left online might even get efficient and fast loading websites.

Honorable mention of the NO-TECH and LOW-TECH magazine site because I liked the effort at exploring efficient use of technology, e.g., their ~500KB solar powered site.

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/about/

ckbkr10|13 days ago

> The only silver lining is that newer devices will have to scale down memory, so developers will have to ditch memory-sucking frameworks and start to optimize things again.

No. Prices will just go up, less innovation in general.

lazide|13 days ago

A few places will have no choice - low price elasticity, combined with things that need to actually work.

theandrewbailey|13 days ago

At least we can add "use the least amount of RAM and drive space" to our AI prompts.

/s

zozbot234|13 days ago

Well you can do that, but then the AI won't be nearly as smart as it was before...

b3lvedere|13 days ago

The main thing that the powers that be have always underestimated is the insane creativity the common people have when it comes to wanting things, but being forced to use alternative ways. Not going to say it won't suck, but interesting ways will indeed be found.

roysting|13 days ago

You’re going to find what, ways to make hand crafted survival RAM and drives in your backyard chip foundry?

Call me cynical if you like, but I don’t see this optimism that assumes the banal idea that somehow good always wins, when that’s simply not possible and in fact bad-guys have won many times before, it’s just that “dead men tell no tales” and the winners control what you think is reality.