Identifying generated comments is not always easy, as others have pointed out, plus we don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.
With LLM comments, there's an important distinction between legit users (who may have no idea that they're breaking a rule, especially because it isn't explicit in the guidelines yet) and accounts that appear to be posting nothing but gen-AI text. If you (anyone and everyone!) see a case of the latter, definitely please email us because we've been banning those accounts.
Even in more borderline cases, though, it's still helpful to email us because sometimes we contact the user, if we can, to let them know that we've been getting such reports. Or we might tell them we've suspended their account until we hear from them that they won't post LLM-generated or processed comments.
> "Personal Computing" is going to become a luxury of the past, and we’ll all be terminal-renters in someone else's data center.
This is the game plan of course, why have customers pay one time for hardware when they can have you constantly feed them money over the long term. Shareholders want this model.
It started with planned obsolescence, now this new model is the natural progression.. There is no obsolescence even in discussion when you're only option is to rent a service, that the provider has no incentive to even make competitive.
I really feel this will be China's moment to flood the market with hardware and improve their quality over time.
This is the result of the long-planned desire for consumer computing to be subscription computing. Ultimately, there is only so much that can be done in software to "encourage" (read: coerce) vendor-locked, always-online, account-based computer usage; there are viable options for people to escape these ecosystems via the ever growing plethora of web-based productivity software and linux distributions which are genuinely good, user friendly enough, and 100% daily-drivable, but these software options require hardware.
It's no coincidence that Microsoft decided to take such a massive stake in OpenAI - leveraging the opportunity to get in on a new front for vendor locking by force-multiplying their own market share by inserting it into everything they provide is an obvious choice, but also leveraging the insane amount of capital being thrown into the cesspit that is AI to make consumer hardware unaffordable (and eventually unusable due to remote attestation schemes) further enforces their position. OEM computers that meet the hardware requirements of their locked OS and software suite being the only computers that are a) affordable and b) "trusted" is the end goal.
I don't want to throw around buzzwords or be doomeristic, but this is digital corporatism in its endgame. Playing markets to price out every consumer globally for essential hardware is evil and something that a just world would punish relentlessly and swiftly, yet there aren't even crickets. This is happening unopposed.
nubg|13 days ago
Why is this allowed on HN?
dang|12 days ago
Identifying generated comments is not always easy, as others have pointed out, plus we don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted. If you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.
With LLM comments, there's an important distinction between legit users (who may have no idea that they're breaking a rule, especially because it isn't explicit in the guidelines yet) and accounts that appear to be posting nothing but gen-AI text. If you (anyone and everyone!) see a case of the latter, definitely please email us because we've been banning those accounts.
Even in more borderline cases, though, it's still helpful to email us because sometimes we contact the user, if we can, to let them know that we've been getting such reports. Or we might tell them we've suspended their account until we hear from them that they won't post LLM-generated or processed comments.
Maxion|13 days ago
1) The comment you replied to is 1 minute old, that is fast for any system to detect weird comments
2) There's no easy and sure-fire way to detect LLM content. Here's wikipedias list of tells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing
bilekas|13 days ago
How do you know that ? Genuine question.
oytis|13 days ago
olavgg|13 days ago
bombela|13 days ago
bilekas|13 days ago
This is the game plan of course, why have customers pay one time for hardware when they can have you constantly feed them money over the long term. Shareholders want this model.
It started with planned obsolescence, now this new model is the natural progression.. There is no obsolescence even in discussion when you're only option is to rent a service, that the provider has no incentive to even make competitive.
I really feel this will be China's moment to flood the market with hardware and improve their quality over time.
actionfromafar|13 days ago
ahsillyme|13 days ago
Yep. My take is that, ironically, it's going to be because of government funding the circular tech economy, pushing consumers out of the tech space.
squeefers|13 days ago
post consumer capitalism
shit_game|13 days ago
It's no coincidence that Microsoft decided to take such a massive stake in OpenAI - leveraging the opportunity to get in on a new front for vendor locking by force-multiplying their own market share by inserting it into everything they provide is an obvious choice, but also leveraging the insane amount of capital being thrown into the cesspit that is AI to make consumer hardware unaffordable (and eventually unusable due to remote attestation schemes) further enforces their position. OEM computers that meet the hardware requirements of their locked OS and software suite being the only computers that are a) affordable and b) "trusted" is the end goal.
I don't want to throw around buzzwords or be doomeristic, but this is digital corporatism in its endgame. Playing markets to price out every consumer globally for essential hardware is evil and something that a just world would punish relentlessly and swiftly, yet there aren't even crickets. This is happening unopposed.
kuerbel|13 days ago
It's so hard to grasp as a problem for the lay person until it's too late.
unknown|13 days ago
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squeefers|13 days ago
GCUMstlyHarmls|13 days ago
iso1631|13 days ago
These things are cyclical.
AmazingTurtle|13 days ago