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PostOnce | 12 days ago

The British did not suddenly and instantaneously turn American in 1776, they had to already be culturally American for things to have wound up there.

What's more, the British didn't leave Britain so they could go be British overseas necessarily, but so they could go do un-British things, it could be argued.

On top of that, 250 years is both a very short time, but also a very long time. It's more than enough not to be hand-waved away, at least. In 250 years it went from a coastal breakaway to the sole hyperpower, slavery came and went, communism arrived and died out, the information age dawned, religion became more of a niche than a facet of everyday life... That's a lot of cultural upheaval.

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OutOfHere|12 days ago

Let's revisit where exactly it is that slavery went. It went into prisons, where it remains legal and used, with about a million people bound by it.

To make a long story short, in the US, you are and have always been one of two things: the exploited or the exploitor.

PostOnce|12 days ago

We spend substantially more on prisoners than they could ever hope to generate in labor.

After all, the average prisoner is not a diligent, sober, hardworking person trying to get ahead; how much economic value are you really likely to extract, even if you're evil?

Chattel slavery and prison labor may be distant relatives, but they're not siblings, and it's wrong (in a dozen different ways) to imply they are.