[pseingatl]

BYD is a formidable competitor and a great product for less.

[rsynnott]

BYD is not, despite the press, really very big in Europe (though it is in a couple of individual countries, notably Spain). Europe-wide, Geely, the Chinese manufacturer that everyone forgets about, is actually bigger: https://eu-evs.com/marketShare/ALL/Groups/Bar/All-time-by-Qu...

[pbronez]

Geely is also present in the US via Volvo and Polestar. They haven’t delivered an affordable entry level EV yet, but I’ve been impressed with the Polestars. I’d never buy one because a Chinese car running on Google software sounds like a nightmare, but they’ve been good when I rented them.

[cyberax]

BYD has barely started exporting cars, a bit less than 1 million last year. The total European market is 11 million cars a year. The global market is 90 million units.

And BYD obviously is focusing on easier markets, where they don't have to fight against tariffs.

[digizeph]

The graph linked doesn’t have BYD sales, how curious

[philistine]

That graph is interesting because you can see direct patterns before 2020. The market was dominated by the Leaf, but during the pandemic the electric offerings of everybody arrived and we moved to a typical car market with the usual suspects being the most successful. Tesla got swamped by cheaper competitors. That and the Nazi stuff.

[epolanski]

I see lots of byds in Europe.

I mean, they aren't common as Teslas, but there are more and more.

[Neil44]

It's strange to me that some Americans will cheer on Chinese companies over Tesla, even overlooking those companies questionable labour practices. (I don't know if you're American)

[ZeroGravitas]

More than half of Tesla's cars are built in China so you can hate them for both reasons.

[Dah00n]

Why? Tesla has huge quality problems (ranked by far the worst used cars in several countries incl. in Germany), an awful CEO, etc. BYD are better quality and cheaper which is insane.

[Yossarrian22]

Because distortions of the free market make us all poorer

[mlrtime]

Because politics bring out the highest emotions in people. We all have strong internal moral compasses and it is very difficult to violate or change them.

[stephen_g]

I'm not American (I'm Australian), but until Tesla divests from Elon Musk, chances are the next car I buy will be Chinese...

[DoesntMatter22]

A lot of it is subsidized by the Chinese government and also, BYD's sales in January were down 33%

[Dah00n]

>subsidized

So, like Tesla. Why is it that when it is a Chinese company it is basically Evil Communism, but when it is in the US it is fine?