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leesec | 12 days ago

Funny to see the comments here vs the thread the other day where a Waymo hit a child.

There's no real discussion to be had on any of this. Just people coming in to confirm their biases.

As for me, I'm happy to make and take bets on Tesla beating Waymo. I've heard all these arguments a million times. Bet some money

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reitzensteinm|12 days ago

Sure. I'll bet you that in calendar year 2028 Waymo has more paid passenger trips than Tesla. Loser donates $1k USD to Doctors Without Borders.

I'm not a camera only doomer, and expect that in ten years Waymo will also not use Lidar, or that the units will be incredibly cheap and well integrated.

But I think the pro Tesla camp is exaggerating how quickly the march of 9s will happen for them, and underestimating and how quickly Waymo will expand in the next few years.

bdangubic|12 days ago

I am in on this as well and will do 10-1, I will donate $10k for any $1k pledged (would easily do 100-1 as I am sure Tesla will kill robotaxi within next 2 years “to focus on alienrobots on Moon Data Centers”)

leesec|6 days ago

Will happily take this bet and also happy to 10x it if you want. Would prefer we just pay each other though. You can donate my money if you want

ra7|12 days ago

> Tesla beating Waymo

Heard this for a decade now, but I’m sure this year will be different!

leesec|12 days ago

I didn't say this year, but lets bet on it?

kikki|12 days ago

I own a Tesla (and subscribe to "FSD", >70% of my miles are FSD without issue). As it stands though, Waymo is by every metric objectively better at "autonomous driving".

I would also love to see every car brand have full autonomous driving. It seems like you think you must be in one camp or another, and that one has to "beat" the other - but that's not true. Both can be successful - wouldn't that be a great world?