[reitzensteinm]

Sure. I'll bet you that in calendar year 2028 Waymo has more paid passenger trips than Tesla. Loser donates $1k USD to Doctors Without Borders.

I'm not a camera only doomer, and expect that in ten years Waymo will also not use Lidar, or that the units will be incredibly cheap and well integrated.

But I think the pro Tesla camp is exaggerating how quickly the march of 9s will happen for them, and underestimating and how quickly Waymo will expand in the next few years.

[bdangubic]

I am in on this as well and will do 10-1, I will donate $10k for any $1k pledged (would easily do 100-1 as I am sure Tesla will kill robotaxi within next 2 years “to focus on alienrobots on Moon Data Centers”)

[leesec]

OK I'm happy to book 10k on this at 10-1. Or whatever the max is you're OK with betting. Prefer just to give to eachother then donate. Please respond if you're serious and we can trade details

[leesec]

Will happily take this bet and also happy to 10x it if you want. Would prefer we just pay each other though. You can donate my money if you want

[reitzensteinm]

Proceeds going to charity is a must for me - it keeps it friendly and significantly reduces the impact of counterparty risk.

There's a reason Long Now uses this format, and I'm happy to use their platform and pay the fee: https://longbets.org/rules/

Email is [e-mail] if you're interested.