it's astounding to me how many people pop off about "AMD SHOULD SUPPORT CUDA" not knowing that HIP (and hipify) has been around for literally a decade now.
Major players in China don't play like that. MooreThreads, Lisuan, and many other smaller companies all have their own porting kits, which are basically copied from HIP. They just port every piece of software and it just works.
If you want to fight against Nvidia monopoly, then don't just rant, but buy a GPU other than Nvidia and build on it. Check my GitHub and you'll see what I'm doing.
You don't understand what HIP is - HIP is AMD's runtime API. it resembles CUDA runtime APIs but it's not the same thing and it doesn't need to be - the hard part of porting CUDA isn't the runtime APIs. hipify is the thing that translates both runtime and kernels. Now is hipify a drop-in replacement? No of course but because the two vendors have different architectures. So it's absolutely laughable to imagine that some random could come anywhere near "drop-in replacement" when AMD can't (again: because of fundamental architecture differences).
Wow you're so very smart! You should tell all the llm and stablediffusion developers who had no idea it existed! /s
HIP has been dismissed for years because it was a token effort at best. Linux only until the last year or two, and even now it only supports a small number of their cards.
Meanwhile CUDA runs on damn near anything, and both Linux and Windows.
Also, have you used AMD drivers on Windows? They can't seem to write drivers or Windows software to save their lives. AMD Adrenalin is a slow, buggy mess.
Did I mention that compute performance on AMD cards was dogshit until the last generation or so of GPUs?
colordrops|12 days ago
You have to port every piece of software you want to use. It's ridiculous to call this a solution.
woctordho|12 days ago
If you want to fight against Nvidia monopoly, then don't just rant, but buy a GPU other than Nvidia and build on it. Check my GitHub and you'll see what I'm doing.
mathisfun123|12 days ago
You don't understand what HIP is - HIP is AMD's runtime API. it resembles CUDA runtime APIs but it's not the same thing and it doesn't need to be - the hard part of porting CUDA isn't the runtime APIs. hipify is the thing that translates both runtime and kernels. Now is hipify a drop-in replacement? No of course but because the two vendors have different architectures. So it's absolutely laughable to imagine that some random could come anywhere near "drop-in replacement" when AMD can't (again: because of fundamental architecture differences).
KennyBlanken|12 days ago
HIP has been dismissed for years because it was a token effort at best. Linux only until the last year or two, and even now it only supports a small number of their cards.
Meanwhile CUDA runs on damn near anything, and both Linux and Windows.
Also, have you used AMD drivers on Windows? They can't seem to write drivers or Windows software to save their lives. AMD Adrenalin is a slow, buggy mess.
Did I mention that compute performance on AMD cards was dogshit until the last generation or so of GPUs?