[kmaitreys]

I mostly I agree with what you said. Comparison with a google project is bad though. That's a corporate business with a lot of people that might touch that codebase. Why are you comparing that to someone's personal project?

Also I can see you and I both agree that it's disingenuous to call all LLM generated content slop. I think slop has just become a provocative buzzword at this point.

Regarding drawing the line, at the end, it comes down to the person using the tools. What others think as these tools become more and more pervasive will become irrelevant. If you as a person outsourced your thinking than it's you who will suffer.

In all my comments, I personally never used the word slop for this project but maintained that LLMs were used significantly. I still think that. Your other comparison of LLMs with things like doxygen or translation tools is puzzling to me. Also points about hammering every nail and every comma are just strawman. 5-6 years ago from today people used these things and nobody had any issues. There's a reason why people dislike LLM use though. If you cannot understand why it frustrates people, then I don't know what to say.

Also people do write assembly by hand when it is required.

[cmdr2]

> If you as a person outsourced your thinking than it's you who will suffer.

Using a code generator != outsourcing your thinking. I know that's the popular opinion, and yes, you can use it that way. But if you do that, I agree you'll suffer. It'll make sub-optimal design decisions, and produce bloated code.

But you can use code generators and still be the one doing the thinking and making the decisions in the end. And maintain dictatorial control over the final code. It just depends on how you use it.

In many ways, it's like being a tech lead. If you outsource your thinking, you won't last very long.

It's a tool, you're the one wielding it, and it takes time, skill and experience to use it effectively.

I don't really have much more to say. I just spoke up because someone who built something cool was getting beat up unnecessarily, and I've seen this happen on HN way too many times recently. I wasn't pointing fingers at you at any point, I'm glad to have had this discussion :)