[drysine]

>Are you questioning the choice of metaphor?

Yes, there is nothing like 'nuclear war without nukes' that is happening here. And I was trying to demonstrate that your logic seem to lead to conclusion that the 'nuclear war without nukes' started in 2014.

>to people it considered once their citizen

It is still considering them Ukrainian citizens.

[ivan_gammel]

Do you realize that it’s just figure of speech, not the core argument?

[drysine]

My argument is that you can't bring strategic defeat without leveling cities or utterly destroying the power generation and electric grid. And that's not what is happening in the Ukraine or even Belgorod for that matter