Much to the disappointment of the combustion apologists, electric heavy vehicles are the future [1] [2]. They win simply from a total cost of ownership perspective, and the technology will continue to rapidly advance. No need to polish a turd with a heater.
In this situation, the product was not fit for purposes because it was not a requirement [4]. This is a procurement and contracting issue, not a technology issue. Another subthread indicates this piece is astroturfing fossil fuel interests [5]. The lesson is to select a vendor who doesn't suck next time. I suggest BYD.
[1] https://www.wri.org/insights/countries-electrifying-bus-flee... ("There are about 780,000 electric buses on the world’s roads as of 2024. Electric buses include battery electric buses, plug-in hybrid electric buses and fuel cell electric buses. So far, 94% of all electric buses are battery electric, which are expected to continue to dominate the industry. More than 90% of the world’s electric buses are located in China — nearly 700,000 in total. China experienced massive growth in electric buses from 2014 to 2018, a time when other countries had barely started deploying them. In 2017, Shenzhen became the first city in the world to electrify its entire bus fleet (16,000 buses). By 2023, the top 10 global cities with the most electric bus sales were in China, with Shenzhen, Shanghai, Chengdu and Beijing leading the way. Outside of China, Santiago, Chile is the city with the highest electric bus sales. The European Union is home to 17,000 electric buses, with most of the sales growth taking place after 2018. Several European countries such as the Netherlands, Finland and Switzerland have achieved very high rates of electric bus adoption. India, South Korea and the United States are each home to more than 10,000 electric buses.")
[2] https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2024/trends-in... ("Sales of electric buses, comprising all medium- and large-sized buses, are far ahead of those of other heavy-duty vehicle (HDV) segments (including medium- and heavy-duty trucks). Several European countries (such as Belgium, Norway and Switzerland) and the People’s Republic of China (hereafter "China") achieved sales shares above 50% in 2023, and more than one-fifth of bus sales were electric in Canada, Chile, Finland, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal and Sweden. Globally, almost 50 000 electric buses were sold in 2023, equating to 3% of total bus sales and bringing the global stock to approximately 635 000 in total. This relatively low share is primarily due to the limited sales shares in most EMDEs, as well as the low market penetration of electric buses in some larger markets such as the United States and Korea.")
dzhiurgis|11 days ago
toomuchtodo|11 days ago
In this situation, the product was not fit for purposes because it was not a requirement [4]. This is a procurement and contracting issue, not a technology issue. Another subthread indicates this piece is astroturfing fossil fuel interests [5]. The lesson is to select a vendor who doesn't suck next time. I suggest BYD.
[1] https://www.wri.org/insights/countries-electrifying-bus-flee... ("There are about 780,000 electric buses on the world’s roads as of 2024. Electric buses include battery electric buses, plug-in hybrid electric buses and fuel cell electric buses. So far, 94% of all electric buses are battery electric, which are expected to continue to dominate the industry. More than 90% of the world’s electric buses are located in China — nearly 700,000 in total. China experienced massive growth in electric buses from 2014 to 2018, a time when other countries had barely started deploying them. In 2017, Shenzhen became the first city in the world to electrify its entire bus fleet (16,000 buses). By 2023, the top 10 global cities with the most electric bus sales were in China, with Shenzhen, Shanghai, Chengdu and Beijing leading the way. Outside of China, Santiago, Chile is the city with the highest electric bus sales. The European Union is home to 17,000 electric buses, with most of the sales growth taking place after 2018. Several European countries such as the Netherlands, Finland and Switzerland have achieved very high rates of electric bus adoption. India, South Korea and the United States are each home to more than 10,000 electric buses.")
[2] https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2024/trends-in... ("Sales of electric buses, comprising all medium- and large-sized buses, are far ahead of those of other heavy-duty vehicle (HDV) segments (including medium- and heavy-duty trucks). Several European countries (such as Belgium, Norway and Switzerland) and the People’s Republic of China (hereafter "China") achieved sales shares above 50% in 2023, and more than one-fifth of bus sales were electric in Canada, Chile, Finland, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal and Sweden. Globally, almost 50 000 electric buses were sold in 2023, equating to 3% of total bus sales and bringing the global stock to approximately 635 000 in total. This relatively low share is primarily due to the limited sales shares in most EMDEs, as well as the low market penetration of electric buses in some larger markets such as the United States and Korea.")
[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47064734
[5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47064724