[theahura]

Hey, author here. I don't think that the security vulns are the most important reason OC is dangerous. Security vulnerabilities are bad but the blast radius is limited to the person who gets pwnd. By comparison, OpenClaw has demonstrated potential to really hurt _other_ people, and it is not hard to see how it could do so en masse.

[enraged_camel]

>> Security vulnerabilities are bad but the blast radius is limited to the person who gets pwnd

No? Via prompt injection an attacker can gain access to the entire machine, which can have things like credentials to company systems (e.g. env variables). They can also learn private details about the victim’s friends and family and use those as part of a wider phishing campaign. There are dozens of similar scenarios where the blast radius reaches well beyond the victim.

[pizlonator]

Agree with author - it's especially scary that even without getting hacked, openclaw did something harmful

That's not to say that prompt injection isn't also scary. It's just that software getting hacked by bad actors has always been a thing. Software doing something scary when no human did anything malicious is worse.

[sejje]

No? Because I wouldn't give it access to those things. I wouldn't let it loose on my personal PC.

If I store my wallet on the sidewalk, that would probably be a problem. So I won't.

A prompt injection could exfiltrate an LLM API key, and some ai-generated code.

[simonw]

I think there is a much higher risk of it hurting the people are using it directly, especially once bad people realize how vulnerable they are.

Not to mention a bad person who takes control of a network of OpenClaw instances via their insecurities can do the other bad things you are describing at a much greater scale.