[alexktz]

Alex from Tailscale here... We’re users just like you, and we felt this pain point ourselves. The good news is that Peer Relays were able to build on a lot of the existing subnet router and exit node plumbing, so it wasn’t a huge engineering lift to bring to life.

We also have plenty of customers running in restrictive NAT environments (AWS being a common example), where direct WireGuard tunnels just aren’t always possible. In those cases, something like Peer Relays is essential for Tailscale to perform the way larger deployments expect.

So yes, it improves latency and UX for self-hosters, but it also helps us support more complex production environments without requiring folks to run and manage custom DERP infrastructure.

[solarisos]

Thanks for the context, Alex. It’s interesting to hear that the engineering lift was lighter by leveraging the exit node/subnet router plumbing—that’s a clever use of existing primitives.

The point about AWS NAT restrictions is a big one. I think a lot of people underestimate how often 'enterprise-grade' networking actually becomes a bottleneck for direct P2P. Moving that burden away from custom DERP management makes the 'it just works' magic of Tailscale feel much more sustainable for small teams.