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networked | 11 days ago

> Replicating the experience of using something like Smalltalk transcript window.

As far as I know from Pharo, the Smalltalk transcript logs plain text and is less capable than xterm. So what you care about is not the capabilities of the terminal but having a long-lived interactive session/REPL or a REPL integrated with an editor?

> No need for SSH to talk with Windows Core/Nano, it can be done via Web GUI administration, or PowerShell remoting.

I was thinking of the administrator connecting to Windows from their Mac or Linux/BSD machine. I don't know if that's a good idea compared to them getting a Windows VM and using Windows-to-Windows PowerShell remoting as you suggest.

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anthk|10 days ago

The concept of an XTerm it's far inferior to Emacs either as a REPL with a shell (eshell), the scratch buffer of the whole Elisp environment. Ditto with 9front with remote mounts and device binding. When you can use a remote component you can do NAT by importing /net in the spot from a remote machine. When you import /proc from another one you can suddenly debug processes of another machine.

Acme with shells are still far superior too. I can edit and script the editor's content and panes and run scripts on them. I can reuse Acme as a Mail, Usenet and maybe Irc client on the spot. I can cut, copy and paste with a mouse faster than a keyboard and yet maintain the Sam commands which are like the ex/ed ones but easier for some tasks (recursive searchs) without getting yourself mad with classic regexps. Heck, I can run filters a la vi under Acme but without being bound to a terminal and thus worried about the input/output on pipes.

pjmlp|10 days ago

How come a graphics powered REPL is less capable than a window that pretends to be a tty from the 1970's?

You can certainly use the same Web GUIs from macOS and GNU/Linux as well, as for Powershell remoting, no need for VM when Powershell nowadays is written in modern portable .NET.

networked|10 days ago

> How come a graphics powered REPL is less capable than a window that pretends to be a tty from the 1970's?

I mean the Smalltalk transcript and its capabilities alone, not Smalltalk as a whole. The transcript apparently just logs plain text; xterm supports color and text formatting like bold and italic. I'm guessing that, per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47058849, you'd want fancy text displayed separately in the GUI.

> as for Powershell remoting, no need for VM when Powershell nowadays is written in modern portable .NET.

It looks like multiplatform PowerShell remoting uses SSH: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/secur.... You'd get a VM to use WinRM.