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TheAlexLichter | 11 days ago

The good part is that the new tools do replace the old ones, while being compatible. The pattern is:

* Rolldown is compatible to Rollup's API and can use most Rollup plugins

* Oxlint supports JS plugins and is ESLint compatibel (can run ESLint rules easily)

* Oxfmt plans to support Prettier plugins, in turn using the power of the ecosystem

* and so on...

So you get better performance and can still work with your favorite plugins and extend tools "as before".

Regarding the "mix of technology" or tooling fatigue: I get that. We have to install a lot of tools, even for a simple application. This is where Vite+[0] will shine, bringing the modern and powerful tools together, making them even easier to adopt and reducing the divide in the ecosystem.

[0] https://viteplus.dev/

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notnullorvoid|11 days ago

As far as I'm aware oxlint only supports plugins for non type aware rules, and type aware rules themselves aren't fully stable because it relies on a fork of tsgo.

TheAlexLichter|11 days ago

That is correct, every rule with a custom parser (e.g. vue/svelte/astro tempaltes) and also type-aware rules can't be used as JS plugin.

Type-aware rule are indeed not marked as stable but work like a charm. tsgolint is indeed tsgo + shims + some works, but that won't change soon as tsgo won't have a JS API for a while.

conartist6|11 days ago

So you really think everyone in JS should have to learn Rust or else be excluded from sharing in the ownership of their critical infra..?

TheAlexLichter|11 days ago

1) This is not what I said, no

2) With AI, languages and syntax matters even less nowadays.

3) There have been a good amount of contributors (e.g. for Oxc) that came out the JS world, so it isn't impossible

4) Realistically, the avg. web dev does not contribute to tooling internals, maximum custom rules or similar. The concepts are a bigger "hurdle" than the lang.

lelandfe|11 days ago

e: ahhh frick this is just stupid AI spam for this dude’s project.

Supports… some ESLint rules. It is not “easy” to add support to Oxlint for the rules it does not.

The projects at my work that “switched” to it now use both Eslint and Oxlint. It sucks, but at least a subset of errors are caught much faster.

dcre|11 days ago

Vite+ is not “this dude’s project”, it’s made by the team that makes all the tools discussed in this article.