[kaashif]

Any competent thinker should be able to structure an argument and present it in written form, that's an important skill to have.

If someone is unable to write an essay arguing something, unable to articulate complex thoughts and back them up with evidence, what does that indicate about their thinking?

I don't write essays either, but I'm sure I could. And maybe some of those docs or emails I write at work are made more effective by that.

[marcus_holmes]

There are literally hundreds of millions of people in the Anglosphere who have graduated from their education unable to coherently structure an argument and present it in written form.

It indicates nothing about their thinking. One of the smartest people I've known left school at 14 and couldn't read or write.

We mistake education for intelligence often. We mistake erudition for capability often. The thing you need to get a PhD is not intelligence, but the ability to follow directions and persevere. You certainly don't need to have any original thoughts, in fact they will only get in your way.

[lurking_swe]

Being able to read or write, if given an opportunity to learn, certainly IS a marker of intelligence. That’s not a very high bar to pass considering toddlers can usually read. But it’s obviously not the only way to measure intelligence!

You claim the smartest person you ever met couldn’t read or write. So what kind of smarts did this person have? Genuinely curious. A really good memory? Emotional intelligence? Extremely persuasive?

[raincole]

> One of the smartest people I've known left school at 14 and couldn't read or write.

Really? What a bummer. Imagining how much more they could've done if the education system had taught them to read and write.